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Blacks are now majority voice of conservatism in Democrat Party
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:11 am
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:11 am
If there is such a thing of a conservative sect in the party as opposed to liberalism in the party then the black vote holds the majority of sway in the party. Appears the white vote is around 50/50 divided between liberalism and what would be construed, in this argument, as conservatism. It's not my definition of conservatism but I don't know what the anti liberalism sect of the party would be called.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:14 am to Homesick Tiger
Religious social conservatives.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:15 am to LigerFan
Blacks are a reliably socially conservative bunch but very economically liberal. The biggest problem is that they don’t think for themselves. They always fall victim to groupthink.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:15 am to OysterPoBoy
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Religious social conservatives.
In the party of abortion and no values. Seems odd.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:17 am to LigerFan
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You mean moderate?
Yeah kinda but you don't really hear about moderate movements associated with political parties, just liberal or conservative movements.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:18 am to Peter Venkman
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They always fall victim to groupthink.
Thanks to LBJ and his soft bigotry of low expectations.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:18 am to Homesick Tiger
Blacks are waking up the Democrats plantation mentality.
More Black people are employed now than ever before. They see those tax chunks taken out of their check.
Then Democrats openly promote higher taxes.
More Black people are employed now than ever before. They see those tax chunks taken out of their check.
Then Democrats openly promote higher taxes.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:18 am to Crimson Wraith
Blacks vote how they are told to vote.
In my experience they often vote against their beliefs.
In my experience they often vote against their beliefs.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:20 am to bird35
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In my experience they often vote against their beliefs.
This will become more evident if Bernie wins the nomination and Obama backs him to beat OMB.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:26 am to IslandBuckeye
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Thanks to LBJ
This LBJ? A quote from his biography written by Doris Goodwin:
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These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.
I've never figured out to this day why the blacks think so much of this man after reading something like that.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:27 am to Homesick Tiger
Y’all are naive as hell if you think this is about anything other than an association with Obama
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:29 am to Peter Venkman
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They always fall victim to groupthink.
I definitely don't care about other white people struggling to get by.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:30 am to IslandBuckeye
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Thanks to LBJ and his soft bigotry of low expectations.
The foundation of which was a solid bedrock of abject, hard racism.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:36 am to Homesick Tiger
A black friend I’ve been (relatively) close with for nearly 25 years has a steady job for the first time since I’ve known him, and has for the past 18 months. He’s even developing (legit) side-businesses. This is a guy who was shady much of his life and did time for selling drugs. But he’s working 40+/week at a job he likes, supporting his family better than he ever did the other way.
He hates Trump. Has no idea why.
I’m going to have a talk with him before November and he’ll make the right choice for America (if he can’t vote due to record, I’ll convince him to convince family and friends). If he is eloquent enough in explaining it to his family or wherever was feeding him the BS he’d spout off to me that was so far from reality that I just declined to offer any reply. I changed the topic to sports, just wasn’t feeling up to it that day.
I’m in a good position right now to not just sway his voting preferences by exposing him
to truth and exposing lies on TV and in papers. I’m actually really good at that — explaining political realities in general, like scary good. If I were a politician I’d be afraid of myself ever rising to top office.
I’m gonna get involved this cycle and do my part to make sure Trump wins the black vote in my district this November (he’ll win LA anyway, end game is to help Trump to turn them
Anti-Democrat by exposing them to actual democrat policy and Trump’s record in contrast to dem policy.
I’ve become close with everyone from the street dealer to the preacher in that community. They’re still anti-Trump (mostly), but I personally like my odds. Plan is to get a couple in each sub-demographic to buy in and spread the message.
I can’t make this following statement because even though in demographic terms (looking only at numbers, past strategies and past results) the statement is 100% true, the strategy will work for the exact reasons I can’t say, and even though people of all races study this stuff for a living, if I said it my comments would be forever (intentionally and intellectually dishonestly) distorted and misconstrued. The statement has to do with Machismo and getting people within the community to spread the good message. It assumes those spreading the message are persuaded to do so via one-on-one conversations that respectfully plant seeds of thought that grow into people whose brains have been liberated. Draw your own conclusions about the redacted statement.
He hates Trump. Has no idea why.
I’m going to have a talk with him before November and he’ll make the right choice for America (if he can’t vote due to record, I’ll convince him to convince family and friends). If he is eloquent enough in explaining it to his family or wherever was feeding him the BS he’d spout off to me that was so far from reality that I just declined to offer any reply. I changed the topic to sports, just wasn’t feeling up to it that day.
I’m in a good position right now to not just sway his voting preferences by exposing him
to truth and exposing lies on TV and in papers. I’m actually really good at that — explaining political realities in general, like scary good. If I were a politician I’d be afraid of myself ever rising to top office.
I’m gonna get involved this cycle and do my part to make sure Trump wins the black vote in my district this November (he’ll win LA anyway, end game is to help Trump to turn them
Anti-Democrat by exposing them to actual democrat policy and Trump’s record in contrast to dem policy.
I’ve become close with everyone from the street dealer to the preacher in that community. They’re still anti-Trump (mostly), but I personally like my odds. Plan is to get a couple in each sub-demographic to buy in and spread the message.
I can’t make this following statement because even though in demographic terms (looking only at numbers, past strategies and past results) the statement is 100% true, the strategy will work for the exact reasons I can’t say, and even though people of all races study this stuff for a living, if I said it my comments would be forever (intentionally and intellectually dishonestly) distorted and misconstrued. The statement has to do with Machismo and getting people within the community to spread the good message. It assumes those spreading the message are persuaded to do so via one-on-one conversations that respectfully plant seeds of thought that grow into people whose brains have been liberated. Draw your own conclusions about the redacted statement.
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 8:39 am
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:20 am to Philippines4LSU
This isn't race related, but it touches on the same mentality.
I'm watching an interview with Dee Snider (Twisted Sister) talking about why he asked Trump to stop using their song "We're Not Gonna Take It" at his rallies.
He said that he and Trump were long-time friends who did a lot of charity work together, but he just could not stand with Trump because...
"I'm pro First Amendment. I'm pro Second Amendment. I'm a concealed carrier. I'm also Pro-Choice. And by pro-choice, I mean on everything."
I want to grab that fricker and shake him, asking, who do you think will take away more of your choices, Trump or the Democrat nominee? It's very difficult to pop the bubble of ignorance people like Snider live in. It's a holdover from when rockers viewed conservatives as religious book burners.
It also makes me wonder if the death of rock-n-roll isn't partially due to guys like Snider losing touch with what made rock rebellious and attractive to young people in the first place. That stuff still appeals to young people today, but instead of singing about heartbreak or fighting the system, they rap about banging hoes and shooting foes.
I'm watching an interview with Dee Snider (Twisted Sister) talking about why he asked Trump to stop using their song "We're Not Gonna Take It" at his rallies.
He said that he and Trump were long-time friends who did a lot of charity work together, but he just could not stand with Trump because...
"I'm pro First Amendment. I'm pro Second Amendment. I'm a concealed carrier. I'm also Pro-Choice. And by pro-choice, I mean on everything."
I want to grab that fricker and shake him, asking, who do you think will take away more of your choices, Trump or the Democrat nominee? It's very difficult to pop the bubble of ignorance people like Snider live in. It's a holdover from when rockers viewed conservatives as religious book burners.
It also makes me wonder if the death of rock-n-roll isn't partially due to guys like Snider losing touch with what made rock rebellious and attractive to young people in the first place. That stuff still appeals to young people today, but instead of singing about heartbreak or fighting the system, they rap about banging hoes and shooting foes.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:24 am to Homesick Tiger
What's frustrating is old school quasi conservative black democrats haven't accepted the reality the Democrat party doesn't represent their quasi conservative values/morals. It's time for Black Americans to come on home to the Republican Party.....it's way past time.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:38 am to Peter Venkman
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Blacks are a reliably socially conservative bunch
How so?
They believe strongly in abortion and the rate of abortion in blacks is way higher by percentage than everyone else.
They don’t believe in staying in homes and supporting kids they have fathered. How is that socially conservative?
Their rate of violent crime by percentage is way higher than the national average. Is this socially conservative?
Traditionally, many blacks are on welfare and sometimes it’s even generational. Is this socially conservative?
How exactly are they socially conservative?
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:41 am to IslandBuckeye
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Thanks to LBJ and his soft bigotry of low expectations.
yup.
GREAT SOCIETY! KEEP THEM ON THAT DEM PLANTATION LBJ! WAY TO GO MAN!
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