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re: Blackhawk pilot did not fly approved path was 1/2 mile off course & 100+ feet too high
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:39 am to Goalie
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:39 am to Goalie
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Yep and more will release very soon. This wasn't an accident
Military personnel don't deviate from orders.
Was told to fly along the river under 200ft to specifically avoid 2 commerical aircrafts trying to land. Didn't listen
Went off path by almost a mile when she wasnt supposed to.
Flew over 300 ft in altitude right into a large commercial airliner.
This was exactly what it was. Murder.
The pilot was a man, right? He was the son of someone my mom knew growing up in Mississippi.
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
When people are tied to events and ideas, then they will be discussed. She is tied to the crash and the idea that DEI is a good thing is being discussed.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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They arent. Theyre making accusations based on zero information
That’s not entirely true since we’ve spent years in total disbelief watching the previous admin make insane decisions based solely on DEI and other gay shite - so there’s absolutely a greater than 0% it’s true because that very thing has been fricked down our throats consistently.
So don’t act like it’s THAT wild of a thought, based on what people have seen with their own eyes. Not that I agree with it - would you bet the house that it’s not even on the table?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:46 am to Cleary Rebels
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When people are tied to events and ideas, then they will be discussed.
You be you, dude.
I dont risk Karma. "For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap"
Galatians 6:7
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 8:48 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
Karma for discussing an event and things that surround it - ok dude that’s quite the stretch. Lets sit around with thumb up our arse, wait on official BS even if it takes weeks and move on. Nothing to see here.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 9:53 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:29 am to BugAC
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Sounds like bullshite.
So we created a box that can survive almost any impact, explosion, fire, etc… but if you drop it in the sink, it’s no good?
Cover up. Hegseth better get on this shite in a hurry.
We will see how damaged it was. Water intrusion does seem suspect since as air crashes go this one wasn't especially severe compared to hitting the ground at high speed and the water wasn't deep so no extreme pressure.
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The Black Hawk's black box -- a combined cockpit voice recorder and digital flight data recorder -- has been recovered in good condition, NTSB member Todd Inman said during a briefing.
The jet's two black boxes were recovered on Thursday. The flight data recorder was found to be in good condition, while the cockpit voice recorder had water intrusion, which is not uncommon, Inman said during the briefing.
Inman said they have high confidence they will be able to extract data from all three black boxes.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/reagan-airport-crash-live-updates-white-house-military/?id=118247845
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:33 am to Diego Ricardo
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The pilot was a man, right?
There were two pilots. One was a man. One was a woman.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:35 am to Diego Ricardo
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He was the son of someone my mom knew growing up in Mississippi
The guy from Mississippi wasn't the one flying the helicopter.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:37 am to cajunangelle
You think those routes are drawn on the ground? It’s not like a road. You ever flown an aircraft? 100 feet in altitude is within error for instruments. “Flown the route before” what’s that one time? 100 times? 100 hours in an aircraft is nothing.
There are a lot of folks on here with zero aviation experience and a deep need to find deeper meaning/conspiracy in random tragedies. Pull it in from the edges.
There are a lot of folks on here with zero aviation experience and a deep need to find deeper meaning/conspiracy in random tragedies. Pull it in from the edges.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:37 am to cajunangelle
I am wondering how these movements match up to ATC telling the pilot to visually separate and whether the pilot was visually separating from something, just the wrong thing.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:40 am to SloaneRanger
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Is this really true in congested, controlled airspace like this? I really don’t know, but that doesn’t sound right.
100 feet can be error or poor calibration in an instrument. Your altitude can vary 100 feet inperceptibly with minimum control input. It’s very small.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:50 am to cajunangelle
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Rewatching the videos toomer and I posted, it appears as if the helo gained altitude to go up a bit and collide.
I don't want to believe it but it does seem like he was getting a medical discharge (X-section 8) and was having an unattended crisis.
But who are they covering for - or are they just gathering facts?
It will come out soon.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:51 am to ItTakesAThief
Hopefully we find out what really happened. The rise in attitude that looks intentional could be reaction to alarms. At that height the reaction would be to pull up that made it worse.
A string of errors that ended in tragady.
A string of errors that ended in tragady.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:53 am to BugAC
he is marge in charge barney fife, mall cop. someone tried to speak and he yelled at them and said NO.
he spoke of the box and putting alcohol and water intrusion in another box and so on and they have a good chance of a download.
he waited his whole life to use the word laborious
he spoke of the box and putting alcohol and water intrusion in another box and so on and they have a good chance of a download.
he waited his whole life to use the word laborious
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 10:04 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:53 am to Goalie
Sure looked like it was a direct hit to me....the chopper HAD to have seen that plane!
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:59 am to Upperaltiger06
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100 feet can be error or poor calibration in an instrument. Your altitude can vary 100 feet inperceptibly with minimum control input. It’s very small.
For a commercial jet at 40000ft it is but not so much for a slow-moving helicopter in crowded airspace. For this situation 100ft is 50% of the altitude cap, not what I would consider "very small". Yes small helicopters can have more variable altitude but it's not like the flight required Stringfellow Hawke and Dom piloting Airwolf.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:08 am to Upperaltiger06
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You think those routes are drawn on the ground? It’s not like a road. You ever flown an aircraft? 100 feet in altitude is within error for instruments. “Flown the route before” what’s that one time? 100 times? 100 hours in an aircraft is nothing.
I can see how this makes sense for a jet flying at 30,000 ft. Is this true, however, for a helicopter whose flight path is supposed to be at only 200 ft altitude? Seems a 100 ft deviation (either way) would be pretty significant there, no?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:08 am to Upperaltiger06
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100 feet can be error or poor calibration in an instrument. Your altitude can vary 100 feet inperceptibly with minimum control input. It’s very small.
At that altitude a radar altimeter is gonna give you pretty accurate readings.
Even the traditional altimeter is pretty darn accurate. Think about it, everyone is using them. Would I trust it within a foot? No. Within 200 ft? Yes.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:10 am to GnashRebel
And before anyone asks I was a military helicopter pilot so yes I know.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:11 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Say her name
His
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