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re: Black pastor is handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:20 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:20 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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ody camera footage showed three officers from Childersburg Police Department screaming at Jennings as he refused to provide identification - before he was ushered away in handcuffs.
This writeup is bullshite - the officers were as polite as could be without absolutely kissing arse. Any 'screaming" they did was to try to interrupt is good pastor's rants.
the good pastor was total asshat - one decent answer would have resolved the entire situation but he was too damned important to stoop to the level of normal human interaction.
piss on all these entitled bullshite asshats.
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:22 pm to GWM
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I knew 15 seconds into the video what the problem was, and the idiot confirmed it at the 4:07 mark. He had a terrible attitude/disposition from the very start, even though the cops couldn't have been any nicer to him. Then the light went off in his head..."I can make me some money off this", that's why he kept telling them to take him to jail, "lock me up".
Pretty sorry attitude for someone calling himself a "Pastor".
This^^^ The guy was being a jerk. If I'm in that same situation, I am showing cops my drivers license and finishing the watering. Why won't people just comply with a simple request?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:26 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:????????
a little lip
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but I don't blame him
well drew you too.
Look - someone calls in a 911 suspicious person report and cops are assigned to check it out.
one moment of lucidity on the part of the good pastor would have resulted in total explanation and good will all around. Jokes could have been made and everyone leaving in good spirits.
Instead the asshat 'pastor' demanded special treatment and gave them the run-around while insulting them trying to do their damned job.
Screw the whole lot of them. next time tell anyone who calls 911 from that region to rectify the situation themselves - the residents don't seem to appreciate any assistance.
Thank God, one of them did finally come forward and unravel the whole thing so the cops could get back to their normal business. No thanks to the f'n pastor. screw him
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:27 pm to idlewatcher
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With cases like these becoming commonplace, I find myself moving further and further away from being a cop apologist as a whole
Are they? Are they really becoming more commonplace?
Or is this a social media phenomenon that broadcasts every poor decision of any cop anywhere across thousands of jurisdictions into the public consciousness.
Name another job/profession where their every public interaction is videotaped. It’s hard to think of another profession that is, by its nature, automatically confrontational in practically every encounter, and yet, I wonder how nurses or doctors or waiters or teachers would fare if every interaction was recorded.
We are killing ourselves with this expectation that there can never be any mistakes made by cops. The police departments are critically low on staff across the nation and no one wants to be a cop who has the wherewithal to do something else. The consequence is that crime of all sorts is skyrocketing, with a level of lawlessness that is unprecedented across this country, and is getting worse.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:31 pm to Bayoubred
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If I'm in that same situation, I am showing cops my drivers license and finishing the watering. Why won't people just comply with a simple request?
So his word and those of the neighbors verifying who he is and his relationship with the neighbor he was doing a good deed wasn't good enough?
Now to be a devils advocate to my own OP, there is a very suspicious side of me that wants to know where the 911 call came from. If this was a ruse to set up the cops I want to know about that too. Taking this story for face value it seems the Cops made this a little personal when he didn't blindly comply and this became a size of dick issue.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:33 pm to upgrayedd
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Despite his good neighborly intentions and other residents vouching for him, Jennings was taken to jail and later charged with obstruction of government operation
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person commits the crime of obstructing governmental operations if, by means of intimidation, physical force or interference or by any other independently unlawful act, he: (1) Intentionally obstructs, impairs or hinders the administration of law or other governmental function; or (2) Intentionally prevents a public servant from performing a governmental function.
Not guilty. Doesn’t meet the first element. The cops should know it’s a BS charge.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:34 pm to GnashRebel
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I’m not a lawyer. What if they have reasonable belief a crime is being committed, such as a neighbor calling and saying someone suspicious is outside a neighbor’s house?
Suspicion isn't a felony or a misdemeanor, come on, the guy is watering plants, what is suspicious about that? They asked and he told them a reasonable excuse. He didn't tell them he was from Mars he told them exactly what was going on and why he was doing what he was doing.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:34 pm to GWM
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PLEASE explain to me what was so wrong with their actions.
He didn’t commit a crime and they arrested him. That’s pretty big.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:39 pm to Bayoubred
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This^^^ The guy was being a jerk. If I'm in that same situation, I am showing cops my drivers license and finishing the watering. Why won't people just comply with a simple request?
This is the problem with most people is that you have rights not to show your ID if you didn't do anything wrong, they can ask but you don't have to show them. The only time I would do that is if I was being arrested or threatened with arrest. A lot of egos in the video have caused municipalities to cough up a lot of money instead of just walking away.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:41 pm to BBONDS25
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PLEASE explain to me what was so wrong with their actions.
He didn’t commit a crime and they arrested him. That’s pretty big.
Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:42 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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The charges were dropped one month later - but now the pastor is set to file a discrimination lawsuit against the officers.
'Last I checked, watering roses ain’t no crime,' Jennings told WIAT.
Following the ordeal, Jennings said that the 'emotional toll' will take him some time to recover from.
Jennings' attorney, Harry Daniels told DailyMail.com that the pastor has struggled to move past the 'traumatic' incident.
'He's a pastor, he's a man of faith, but I would be remissive if I didn't tell you that what he's dealing with is very hard.
'A split moment he felt his life could have been taken from him if he showed any resistance, even though he was right in the video.'
The pastor feared leaving to get his ID from his house and thought if he were to take off, the cops might 'put a bullet' in his back, according to Daniels.
i mean come on. hes going to win a lawsuit, but hes still more likely to be shot in the back by some black teen. or you know, die in a car accident because car accidents are racist.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:42 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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obstruction of government operation
This is nearly always a garbage charge.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:43 pm to LoveHorn
quote:There was a time when watching an absent neighbor’s property was not derided.
All because of some nosy arse Karen or Chad.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:43 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is nearly always a garbage charge.
the charges were dropped anyway.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:45 pm to GWM
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Do you think the "Pastor" conducted himself in a polite, professional manner ?
It doesn’t matter. He has no legal obligation to do so. All the officers had to do was stand with the man while they confirmed with a neighbor that he lived in the area. Hell, they could have sat in the patrol car and observed him without even making contact until he actually committed a crime. The cops need to learn how to perform an investigation and they need to learn that suspicious activity is not a crime. They never had RAS to even detain him, yet they did. The taxpayers will be on the hook for a settlement with this man for the civil rights suit that should be coming. Some day the cops themselves will be on the hook for some of this stuff and start caring about the law and an individuals rights. As long as it’s the taxpayers’ money being given away they will keep on doing dumb stuff like this.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:46 pm to tiger1616
quote:I bet you had unkind things to say about the New Yorkers who did not jump in and stop that subway assault.
people need to mind their own damn business.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:50 pm to dgnx6
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the charges were dropped anyway.
Doesn't matter.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:52 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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It doesn’t matter. He has no legal obligation to do so.
Just because you can be a jackass doesn't mean you should.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:53 pm to AggieHank86
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I bet you had unkind things to say about the New Yorkers who did not jump in and stop that subway assault.
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Good lord, Hank. Dealing in absolutes should be beneath you.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:54 pm to Jimbeaux
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Are they really becoming more commonplace?
I doubt it, but the video is becoming more commonplace, and that's a good thing.
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We are killing ourselves with this expectation that there can never be any mistakes made by cops.
That's true for the "defund the police" crowd, but I fully expect mistakes. Willful actions are not mistakes. The digital age has shown us that cops do not deserve any special trust or benefit of the doubt that most people, myself included, used to give them.
Another poster asked this:
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The other neighbor comes along and vouches him and they still arrest him. What is that?
I'll tell you why, because they were pissed off and wanted to punish him. They even have a trite little phrase for it: "He might beat the rap but not the ride", meaning that even if they know it'll go nowhere they can still inconvenience you, embarrass you and put you in the "yes" column for "have you ever been arrested."
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 2:56 pm
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