re: Black pastor is handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers

It was the neighbor who called reporting a suspicious vehicle. Which the cops then determined was the owner of the house’s car. The caller also then said she recognized him and knew he was the neighbor and that he was friends with the owner.

They still arrested him.

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How about not being a retarded robot and figuring out there is nothing here.

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The litigious nature of the lowest members of society has mostly eroded the latitude law enforcement officers have to make decisions.

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Please explain how they were stupid ? Stop talking in generalities, provide specifics.

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They had his last name and his address. They could’ve easily checked to see if that last name matched up with the occupant of the address he indicated.

They knew he was a neighbor. They knew he was a friend of the person’s house he was at. The neighbor who called in a suspicious car was wrong. It was the homeowner’s car. She also recognized him when she got closer and said it was very likely that he was supposed to be there.

Why would you put someone in handcuffs given all that? Because you’re stupid.

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The litigious nature of the lowest members of society has mostly eroded the latitude law enforcement officers have to make decisions.

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I’m not sure this is the right case study for that comment.

The cops have to respond to the call or they get in trouble. They also have the right to ask for id.

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They also have the right to ask for id.

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They do not, apparently, have the ability to not be stupid.

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And the cops actions are exactly why I don't blindly support LE.


WHAT ? The cops actions couldn't have been any better upon their arrival. They explained the entire situation, very nicely, and politely, from the very start ! What did they receive from the very start, attitude, belligerence, and threats.

PLEASE explain to me what was so wrong with their actions.

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LOL, yeah you have no idea of what you are talking about. I would tear that up in court with ease. The Pastor identified himself when they approached and told them what he was doing and to be fair it was blatantly obvious. You don't also have to identify yourself, constitutionally protected, even though he did in the beginning.
They obviously saw him as no threat and made up a charge for their actions instead of investigating first to CYA. Guaranteed that this will get dismissed and a lawsuit will happen.

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The cops have to respond to the call or they get in trouble. They also have the right to ask for id.

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LOL, some of you are so gullible. They can ask for ID but under the constitution you don't have to give it unless you are being charged with a crime.
Quit watching law and order and think you understand.

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When it’s obvious the guy is a neighbor watering the bushes, go back to fighting crime.

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It was only obvious to me that he was watering flowers, not who he was. He said who he was, but refused to identify himself.

So, let's say someone was with him, and inside the house looking for money and jewelry.

"Here, you stand outside and water the flowers and draw suspicion away from the house to yourself. Tell anyone that asks that 'you're the pastor down the street just helping out your neighbors.' I'll go through everything, then you let me know when it's clear to come back out."

I mean, that's entirely plausible. All the guy had to do was identify himself and the cops leave. Under those circumstances, I would, just to avoid trouble. I know I am not required to show ID to a cop. This guy decided to bring trouble on himself.