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Black intellectuals you should be following (update in latest post)

Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:42 pm
Groupthink is the trend of the day, but there are plenty of informed, unique and iconoclastic voices out there in the wilderness.

Here's my list (feel free to add)

Glenn Loury - econ professor at Brown, been around for decades. He is almost perfectly rational. I recommend in particular his podcasts with John McWhorter and Wilfred Reilly.

John McWhorter - Columbia professor. He's been prominent since the early 00s when he wrote several good books on race. He is almost insanely articulate.

Coleman Hughes - very young, recent Columbia grad. He's an up and comer that has gotten a lot of respect and cred from the older guys.

Thomas Chatteron Williams - very compelling commentator. He's living in Paris at the present.

As a gift - here's a recent podcast that put all these guys around one table: The Fifth Column

Wilfred Reilly - author of Hate Crime Hoax and other statistically underpinned books, he is great.

Thomas Sowell - the godfather
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:43 pm to
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Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:44 pm to
I understand why you didn’t do it, but a few words about how you interpret their political leaning would be helpful
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:46 pm to
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John McWhorter
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articulate
lol u racist
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:46 pm to
Some of the notes look interesting but shouldn't you tell black people they should be following them?

you know, instead of the race pimps they actually do
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33577 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:49 pm to
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I understand why you didn’t do it, but a few words about how you interpret their political leaning would be helpful
I don't know if I even know their party leanings, but their views on race amount to extraordinary contrarianism with regard to current orthodoxy.

e.g. In that 5th Column podcast, Loury asserted that in the Arbery case that we should also consider the impact of black biases. So, he states that a black guy facing a "citizens' arrest" from the baws might have an entirely different reaction to a citizens' arrest in the hood. We can't just consider one-way racial biases.

Hughes makes the observation that everyone is constantly chided to be completely and utterly dismissive of a middle class white person being scared of Islamic terrorism or a raping Mexican illegal because of statistics, but that black people are encouraged to take outlying events (like Arbery) and fully extrapolate them to "you should definitely tell your children to be terrified of jogging while black" despite paltry evidence in support of such fears.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:49 pm to
Thomas Sowell
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:50 pm to
NOW you're talking.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33577 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Some of the notes look interesting but shouldn't you tell black people they should be following them?
Yes, I wish they would. But I really wish Karen would. Because now we are all going to get an avalanche of un-nuanced bullshite.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:50 pm to
Thanks. These guys are fantastic.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:52 pm to
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Black intellectuals you should be following
While those are good choices, it's honestly a waste of time.

You can predict what a black person will do politically by simply finding out he's black with a greater reliability than you could pick the easy girl at a strip club.

Black intellectuals, for all practical purposes, don't matter at all in the American political and philosophical landscape.

Black people dismiss them and white people have been taught to be afraid to even bring them up lest it be referred to as tokenism.

That's just reality. It's not going to get better. It's going to get worse.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:55 pm to
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But I really wish Karen would.
You misunderstand Karen's motivations.

Karen wants everyone to tell her how great a person she is.

Karen could read all those people, agree 100% with what they have to say, and STILL virtue signal like a MFer.

She isn't motivated by ideology. She's motivated by self importance.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33577 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:52 pm to
Glenn Loury has penned a devastating response to Brown University:

quote:

I was disturbed by the letter from Brown’s senior administration. It was obviously the product of a committee—Professors XX and YY, or someone of similar sensibility, wrote a manifesto, to which the president and senior administrative leadership have dutifully affixed their names.

I wondered why such a proclamation was necessary. Either it affirmed platitudes to which we can all subscribe, or, more menacingly, it asserted controversial and arguable positions as though they were axiomatic certainties. It trafficked in the social-justice warriors’ pedantic language and sophomoric nostrums. It invoked “race” gratuitously and unreflectively at every turn. It often presumed what remains to be established. It often elided pertinent differences between the many instances cited. It read in part like a loyalty oath. It declares in every paragraph: “We Hold These Truths to Be Self-Evident.”

And just what truths are these? The main one: that racial domination and “white supremacy” define our national existence even now, a century and a half after the end of slavery.

I deeply resented the letter. First of all, what makes an administrator (even a highly paid one, with an exalted title) a “leader” of this university? We, the faculty, are the only “leaders” worthy of mention when it comes to the realm of ideas. Who cares what some paper-pushing apparatchik thinks? It’s all a bit creepy and unsettling. Why must this university’s senior administration declare, on behalf of the institution as a whole and with one voice, that they unanimously—without any subtle differences of emphasis or nuance—interpret contentious current events through a single lens?

They write sentences such as this: “We have been here before, and in fact have never left.” Really? This is nothing but propaganda. Is it supposed to be self-evident that every death of an “unarmed black man” at the hands of a white person tells the same story? They speak of “deep-rooted systems of oppression; legacies of hate.” No elaboration required here? No specification of where Brown might stand within such a system? No nuance or complexity? Is it obvious that “hate”—as opposed to incompetence, or fear, or cruelty, or poor training, or lack of accountability, or a brutal police culture, or panic, or malfeasance—is what we observed in Minneapolis? We are called upon to “effect change.” Change from what to what, exactly? Evidently, we’re now all charged to promote the policy agenda of the “progressive” wing of American politics. Is this what a university is supposed to be doing?

I must object. This is no reasoned ethical reflection. Rather, it is indoctrination, virtue-signaling, and the transparent currying of favor with our charges. The roster of Brown’s “leaders” who signed this manifesto in lockstep remind me of a Soviet Politburo making some party-line declaration. I can only assume that the point here is to forestall any student protests by declaring the university to be on the Right Side of History.

What I found most alarming, though, is that no voice was given to what one might have thought would be a university’s principal intellectual contribution to the national debate at this critical moment: namely, to affirm the primacy of reason over violence in calibrating our reactions to the supposed “oppression.” Equally troubling were our president’s promises to focus the university’s instructional and research resources on “fighting for social justice” around the world, without any mention of the problematic and ambiguous character of those movements which, over the past two centuries or more, have self-consciously defined themselves in just such terms—from the French and Russian Revolutions through the upheavals of the 1960s.

My bottom line: I’m offended by the letter. It frightens, saddens, and angers me.

Sincerely,

Glenn


LINK
Posted by Jwho77
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:54 pm to
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You misunderstand Karen's motivations.

Karen wants everyone to tell her how great a person she is.

Karen could read all those people, agree 100% with what they have to say, and STILL virtue signal like a MFer.

She isn't motivated by ideology. She's motivated by self importance.


Exactly. Imagine all Karens like Drew and Brittany Brees.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:55 pm to
Here's a real black intellectual you "Big" guy
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:57 pm to
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She isn't motivated by ideology. She's motivated by self importance.
And social media clicks.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33577 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Here's a real black intellectual you "Big" guy
Yes, I have loved Sowell for decades.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36224 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:03 pm to
Walter Williams, another Hayek and Von Mises protégé. Found him in the early days of the Ron Paul movement back in 2007.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:04 pm to
Umm I think you forgot Candace Owens
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:05 pm to
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Thomas Sowell



I've asked posters why they believe Sharpton is the media expert and not Thomas Sowell?

Both are intelligent. One is a scam artist the other should be the voice of conservatism.
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