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re: Bill Kristol: “America First Is Dead: We Are All Globalists Now..”

Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:56 pm to
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But the elections will generally be lost until true conservative values are allowed

This should be done in the primary.

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there are no options available for true conservatives. Some will vote libertarian/3rd party, some will pinch their nose and vote republican anyway, and some won't vote at all.

Any conservative that doesn't do everything possible to keep Democrats from power is either retarded, achingly soft, or both.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:10 am to
Not what you did but like I said you’re dishonest
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3749 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:17 am to
Just say we got here because of past Government officials.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 12:42 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38278 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:52 am to
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This should be done in the primary.


Good luck there. That seems to be even harder. I wanted to primary my rep and it wasn't really close. He's backed by AIPAC and the money gap is large.

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Any conservative that doesn't do everything possible to keep Democrats from power is either retarded, achingly soft, or both.


A democrat by any other name still smells the same. The reason neocons are worse than democrats is because neocons REPLACE the conservative option, while at the same time ruining the image of the party.

You have no idea how hard it is for me to get people to even consider republicans because of the shite neocons have done in the past. And then they finally go and vote for Trump and bam - more neocon shite.

And at any rate, if you vote for party name over principles, then you are the fricking retard, not me.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38278 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:04 am to
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Not what you did but like I said you’re dishonest


I'm not dishonest. It's against the commandments to bear false witness, and that's why I say things even when I know they won't be popular.

I do it in sports and everything else as well. Doesn't matter what the topic is.

I'm a chump, a sucker or whatever else you want to call it. Morals and such are extremely important to me. When most people don't care, I do and I speak up.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10424 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:27 am to
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This is MAGA’s new bedmate. Enjoy.


With this logic, you are bedmates with the squad. Isn't retarded logic fun? Enjoy.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:27 am to
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ood luck there. That seems to be even harder

Okay. It’s hard.

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And at any rate, if you vote for party name over principles, then you are the fricking retard, not me.

List the principled Democrats you’ve voted for the last 3-4 cycles.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:32 am to
Ok, now it makes sense.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38278 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:33 am to
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List the principled Democrats you’ve voted for the last 3-4 cycles.


Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.





Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:54 am to
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Ron Paul. Ron Paul. Ron Paul.

So, a guy who only won an election as a Republican.

It’s Vance vs Newsom in ‘28 and some Libertarian flavor of the month is on the ballot. You’re going to vote for the L?
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1578 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:54 am to
This p3do is the biggest globalist out there. And man, are the globalists PISSED OFF right now
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 1:55 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38278 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:04 am to
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So, a guy who only won an election as a Republican.

It’s Vance vs Newsom in ‘28 and some Libertarian flavor of the month is on the ballot. You’re going to vote for the L?


Yes, or write someone in. And I would vote for Newsom over Vance if forced to pick between them.

See, if a neocon wins, then it's a minimum of 8 years before a conservative can win again, typically 12. You'll have a neocon for 4 years in office, then they'll run again and win or lose there is no conservative option. That's 8 years. Now after 8 a conservative could win, however typically the reputation of the republicans is so bad it's another 4 minimum.

However, if Newsom wins, the neocon platform is once again properly rejected and we have a chance at a conservative option in 4 years.

So am I going to vote for another 12 years minimum for liberals to run the country as the uniparty, or do I give it 4 years with a chance for a conservative and a conservative party like last year that at least pretends to support the right things.

I'll take the 4 years. Last time it took 16 years to get another option.

This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 2:07 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:14 am to
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And I would vote for Newsom over Vance if forced to pick between them.

JFC

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See, if a neocon wins, then it's a minimum of 8 years before a conservative can win again, typically 12. You'll have a neocon for 4 years in office, then they'll run again and win or lose there is no conservative option. That's 8 years. Now after 8 a conservative could win, however typically the reputation of the republicans is so bad it's another 4 minimum. However, if Newsom wins, the neocon platform is once again properly rejected and we have a chance at a conservative option in 4 years.

Well, you’ve explained which kind of “conservative” you are.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38278 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:23 am to
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Well, you’ve explained which kind of “conservative” you are.


Yeah, an actual conservative. neoconservative = not conservative.

What part of neocons are worse than liberals do you not understand?

I'm not a dumbass who treats politics like it's a team sport and that I must vote for the letter. You're the problem. Establishment boot licking cuck.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 2:23 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21881 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:35 am to
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You're the problem. Establishment boot licking cuck.

lmao - you know nothing about me, but this here is pretty funny.

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Yeah, an actual conservative. neoconservative = not conservative.

There is nothing “conservative” about surrendering, and that’s precisely what you’d do with a vote for Gavin f’n Newsom because the wrong Republican won the primary.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9495 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 2:42 am to
I'm not sure what we have done is the right course of action, but no one has been more consistently wrong about everything than flipping Kristol.

If that idiot said "don't grab the pan. It's hot", I know it would be safe to touch.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 2:43 am
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12627 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 4:34 am to
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I just said in another thread

And every other thread you post in.

Give it a break.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:28 am to
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PISSED OFF





Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
4098 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:43 am to
Phag Pedo Kristol doesn't even know what it means to be globalist. Trump ATTACKED an open and avowed enemy of America. Our Country is safer now. A globalist is in the mold of Obama/Biden who would continue to try to appease Iran with cash and deals while calling Israel (or any country that dares to defend itself) the aggressor.

Bill Kristol is a man without a country. He sold his soul to for one more moment of relevancy.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80260 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:43 am to

One exception does not make it dead.


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