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re: Big misconception among many of you about why we Dems oppose The Wall

Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:57 pm to
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Gtfo you were all in believing that bull shite


Check my post history, liar
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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:57 pm to
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You are sided with the Buzzfeed


Am I though?
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:59 pm to
You then mocked a poster for comparing the biz feed story to having to prove a negative. You fell for it. It’s ok.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:59 pm to
I guess BBONDS ran away. Can’t blame him after getting owned.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:00 pm to
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You then mocked a poster for comparing the biz feed story to having to prove a negative


Did I though?
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:01 pm to
Wrong, all wrong.

The REAL reason you oppose the wall...

You have been duped in to believing it is racist.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Here is a better question

If the wall won't work, why not just give it to him? It is a FRACTION of ONE PERCENT he is asking for. If it doesn't work, Trump will look like a fool.

What are the dems scared of? What is the REAL reason?

Again, if the wall won't work, if it will be a giant Trump failure, why not just give it to him?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:01 pm to
He fails to realize his condescending holier than thou approach to literally every topic doesn’t impress anyone and it makes him look like an idiot

His continuous lies about being center left are already enough to discredit his opinions
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:02 pm to
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being such a lying hack. You’re better than that.


I linked your post. If you read your next post in that thread it gets even better.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:02 pm to
The wall won him the election. The ultimate poll.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:02 pm to
Glad you came back, now address your lie that I exposed. If you can’t admit I wasn’t in on the buzzfeed article then you’re a hack not worth talking to. If you made a mistake that’s okay, just own it and we can move on.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:03 pm to
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I guess BBONDS ran away. Can’t blame him after getting owned.


Yikes. Look up
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:03 pm to
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His continuous lies about being center left


On which issues am I far left? Be specific please so I can destroy you like I just did Bonds. Otherwise STFU.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:03 pm to
You saved him the trouble and called yourself the liar.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:03 pm to
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Did I though?


Yep. It’s right there in the thread I linked. It’s ok to admit you were wrong.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:04 pm to
Did I? How so? Be specific.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:04 pm to
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It’s right there in the thread I linked.


Is it really though? Or are you just desperately trying to save face after getting exposed? It’s okay we’re all friends here.
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:04 pm to
I think a point by point examination is in order.
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1) It’s a Dog Whistle (emotional reason).

Only woke liberals hear dog whistles. That’s so they can call their conservative opposition names like racist, misogynistic, homophobs without proof except some ethereal, invisible, unbearable nonexistent Dog Whistle that only the emotionally fragile can hear.
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2) It’s a bad precedent (political reason). Dems don’t want to create a precedent where Trump can get his way by threatening a shut down. “If we give him this then what’s it going to be next time?”

Well before we examine the flip side of this coin. Let’s examine very recent history. Last month the GOP House past a continuing resolution with the wall funding that amounted to 1/10 of a penny on the federal budget dollar. The Senate Democrats filibustered it to set up the shutdown. Nancy hasn’t passed anything, but continuously closes down to go home and take trips. This is more of a Democrat shut down than Trump or GOP.

Now for the flip side. Democrats have already created the precedent that Trump will not get the wall without the shutdown. Funny this never occurred to you!
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3) It’s unnecessary/ineffective (logical reason).

This is an illogical libtard talking point. Walls worked for the a Chinese. They kept building them and maintained them for centuries. Walls worked in Berlin where border crossings decreased to essentially zero. It’s working currently for Israel against terrorist.

It actually worked on the southern border a few weeks ago when the illegal invaders tried to rush the border wall. The wall held them up long enough for border agents to break up the attempt with tear gas. Without a wall they would only have caught one each and thousands would have invaded.

We put walls around our embassies and military bases. Obama put a wall around his house. I’ll bet you have a “barrier” around your loved ones. Probably lock your car doors to.

This reminds me of the fallacy that water boarding didn’t yield results, when in fact Osama was captured only with information gained exclusively by the technique. One may not like walls or water boarding, but it is complete Bullshite to claim they are ineffective or unnecessary.
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4) Negative effect on border economies/culture (logical/emotional reasoning).

High on emotional, low on logical, and zero on proof. The Mexican/American trade will be unaffected since trade crosses the border owner roads, rails, air, and sea. It doesn’t cross on an illegal Honduran’s back.
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5) It’s expensive (logical reason).

1) As noted earlier it is 1/10th of a penny on the budgetary dollar.
2) Providing welfare, education, medical car, incarceration cost is more expensive every year!
3) We would save money yearly, and a beautiful Fijian legally immigrant American citizen police officer wouldn’t have been brutally murdered by an illegal invader while he was protecting and serving the American public.
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6) The border is beautiful; a Wall is ugly (emotional/logical reason).

My aren’t you emotional and illogical. Every one of your reasons is emotional, illogical, false, or one sided.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And it’s completely based on individual taste like graffiti. Graffiti is ugly property damage to one, and beautiful art to another.

Double dare you to call those wall ugly!
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7) Trump wants it really bad (emotional).

This is the real reason the emotionally challenged left doesn’t want the wall, Orange Man Bad! Y’all would rather have this man murdered then give Trump 1/10 of a penny and a perceived victory!

Posted by BeeFense5
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:05 pm to
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On which issues am I far left?


For starters you are all in on the bull shite collusion hysteria

Anyone that remotely believes in muh Russia outs themselves as a progressive lunatic
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 4:06 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:05 pm to
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so I can destroy you like I just did Bonds.


I linked your own dang posts. Self-declaring victory is something Rex does. You, sir, are no rex.
Posted by texag7
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:06 pm to
When a lib self declares victory. You know they’ve lost
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