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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump

Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:56 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:56 am to
So is WEF an idea in the same way that Antifa is an idea?

And yes, I did misread you. But I attribute that to all the ridiculous hot you post now. That's my bad
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:57 am to
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Not really comparable. Ukraine wants to legitimately move into Europe. It's within the EU sphere of influence, not Russia.
And Cuba wanted ally with USSR...

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The Monroe Doctrine also predates real international relations.
thanks for the laugh.

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The Monroe Doctrine officially died when Cuba became Communist, also. That was 80 years ago. It's not a relevant citation in any way, shape, or form.
Nah. There are modern examples as well.
Posted by DamnGood86
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:57 am to
Globalism seems an extremely generic term. In my opinion these guys seek some kind of global elitism. One way to achieve that is to simply destabilize the world and drive it into economic and social ruin. When everyone is freezing to death or starving or dying of thirst they will readily submit to the State just to simply survive. The State being les by a worldwide cabal of a handful of the ultra elite.

Destroying that pipeline moves us one step further down that road.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:58 am to
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You equated "racist and fascist" groups with the WEF in a "both sides" claim.

No I equated racism and fascism with globalism. The people promoting these as existential threats need boogeymen, which the WEF is.

You're trying to combine the ism with the boogeyman, which is why your qualifiers weren't a logical progression to the discussion.

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So you're going with the WEF is just an idea?

The WEF exists, but it's not this powerful boogeyman as has bee promoted as a talking point (of unknown origin at this time, but possibly Russia)

Nobody was talking about the WEF until it became a meme, even though it has existed for a long time. The meme was created by an intelligentsia and proliferated through the normal channels.

Same as all the shite coming from the Leftist intelligentsia.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:59 am to
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This must eat at you daily. Are you on psych meds too?

You have the wrong guy.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:59 am to
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Same as "globalist" boogeymen like WEF/Schwab


The same threat the many believe the WEF represents are the same threats that were stated 20-30 years ago by the same folks fearing the New World Order. Only back then it was the Rothchilds, the Rockefellers, the Bushes and other elites meeting at places like Bohemian Grove. This was mostly discussed on shows like Art Bell, Alex jones in his early years and other conspiracy theory laden media. I certainly got a kick out of it, but I knew it was mostly entertainment. Now its mainstream and folks are making a killing selling this shite to the gullible.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:59 am to
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of unknown origin at this time, but possibly Russia


Speaking of unfounded boogeymen
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:00 am to
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Weird how it seems to skip an administration

Be careful. This can be spun by both sides
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:01 am to
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Be careful. This can be spun by both sides



It can't though. Why would Putin not expand his footprint with his so called puppet in charge?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:02 am to
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Speaking of unfounded boogeymen

I mean Russian propaganda is literally being spouted on this board this morning, fresh off the presses.

It's not a guarantee Russia created that specific meme. There is an authoritarian-right intelligentsia who wants conflict just as much as the crypto-Communist intelligentsia wants conflict. They want people acting emotionally and irrationally fearing the "other" because that's how they seize power.

Polarity is bad. People are falling for it (on both sides). If they don't wake up, one of these authoritarian sides is going to "win" and take over, likely after the loss of tens of millions of people and a crashing of our standard of life.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:03 am to
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I mean Russian propaganda is literally being spouted on this board this morning, fresh off the presses.



Propaganda according to whom?

And are you not considering many of the things you post may in fact also be propaganda from somewhere else?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:04 am to
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Well you're also wrong. International invasion is pretty rare. The US did it in Iraq 20 years ago. Russia did it in Georgia in...2012? Ukraine in 2014, too.


17 international military invasions have happened since 2000

87 international military invasions have happened post WW2.

Come again?
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 11:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:04 am to
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It can't though. Why would Putin not expand his footprint with his so called puppet in charge?

Think of it more as a collaboration and not a "master-puppet" relationship.

Also, it's not like Trump did anything to correct Putin's crimes re: Crimea, when he had the chance to. Why was he so weak to Putin when he was in office?

It can go both ways.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:05 am to
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Think of it more as a collaboration and not a "master-puppet" relationship.


Oh for suck's sake

Yes, a retard could try to spin it. Are you a retard?
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:05 am to
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No I equated racism and fascism with globalism. The people promoting these as existential threats need boogeymen, which the WEF is.
This is getting silly. Now you're equating a political/racist ideology with an organization. There is no equivalency there for your "both sides" argument.

Find me a group overtly espousing a racist/fascist agenda with an attendee list equivalent to this: LINK


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The WEF exists, but it's not this powerful boogeyman as has bee promoted as a talking point (of unknown origin at this time, but possibly Russia)
I mean, you can observe political leader around the world repeating their talking points and implementing their agenda. From SriLanka, to the Netherlands, to.. the US. That's not a boogyman.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:06 am to
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Propaganda according to whom?

I know the media in the US is coordinated in a partisan manner, but Russian news is literally government propaganda.

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And are you not considering many of the things you post may in fact also be propaganda from somewhere else?

I don't really come to my ideological conclusions from "somewhere else". I'm also pretty consistent (unlike the vast majority of this board who once supported the War in Iraq and Bush's neocon bullshite)
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:06 am to
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Speaking of unfounded boogeymen
exactly.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:07 am to
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I know the media in the US is coordinated in a partisan manner, but Russian news is literally government propaganda.


Holy shite dude.
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I don't really come to my ideological conclusions from "somewhere else". I'm also pretty consistent (unlike the vast majority of this board who once supported the War in Iraq and Bush's neocon bullshite)



Consistent in that you've completely changed over the years, sure.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:07 am to
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I mean Russian propaganda is literally being spouted on this board this morning, fresh off the presses.
Yah. And no one ever spouted US or Ukranian propaganda. Nope. Never happend.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:07 am to
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Yeah, prices have been rock solid since we started pumping Ukraine full of cash. Those markets aren't connected.


Let me ask you, should the west just turned a blind eye to a rapacious, mafia nation invading another country on its doorstep? The amount of money going into Ukraine isn’t the trigger for higher prices, it’s merely saying no and providing any support.

But, again, you’re suggesting the best path to thwart Putin is direct gov intervention into the market to the detriment of the American consumer.
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