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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:47 am to squid_hunt
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:47 am to squid_hunt
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Im proposing that as lon as we're burning money to fhnd a war we have little interest in, if we had a genuine interest in neutralizing Putin would at least put it toward something useful.
Funding pvt companies so the can export more natty and increase domestic pricing?
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If you even could read, it would be obvious I think Biden took wrong action on purpose to fuel the war and that was in the context of the discussion that I believe we are respnsible for the inciting act of blowing up the pipeline.
You probably believe fentanyl candy is a Halloween threat!
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But please continue to explain how government intervention is bad because you're not a raving socialist who has never seen a government program he wasn't full in on.
Where have I ever posted in support of gov handouts or socialism? Here we have you directly proposing gov intervention into the market with the result increasing costs for American consumers!
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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OK cool. That's irrelevant to the discussion.
Yea...only if you are freaking retarded and fail to remember I am directly responding to your counter point that "Ukraine was invaded" as if that explains the global awareness and solidarity while many others are not even reported.
My exact point was "that's different" and you just proved it by deflection
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wow
Yeah, surprising people don't see realize we are being invaded on the Southern border every day?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:47 am to Taxing Authority
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Italy is a country, not a world-wide influential racist/fascist organization with numerous world leaders participating in it's agenda in an organized manner.
See now you're adding qualifiers.
This was the original question:
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how many people in government regularly attend and are involved in racist and fascist groups?
The Italian government is formed by parties that have been declared fascist.
Hell, the Republican Party has been declared fascist (and racist). Same with every other conservative group. CATO, CPAC, several state governments. The boogeyman is everywhere if you define your threat vaguely enough. This applies to fascism racism, and globalism.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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Referencing Hillary fricking Clinton is the definition of deflection, especially where literally nobody in the thread supported her.
I know Powerman and cwill didn't.
Who does cwill support?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:49 am to cwill
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Funding pvt companies so the can export more natty and increase domestic pricing?
How is that different than the dumpingof billions into the economy through Ukraine?
You're the biggest raving leftist troll on this site cwill. Who are you trying to kid?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Italian government is formed by parties that have been declared fascist.
Just like Trump is literally Hitler to those same people
You fricking dunce.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:49 am to LNCHBOX
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Powerbottom absolutely voted for her. And even if he hadn't. He's regurgitated so many things she's said and supports that my post still stands.
We always end up outside of the argument and with the baseless, “you’re a socialist who voted for who I don’t like!”
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:50 am to GumboPot
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Why are you so averse to this reasoning?
It's completely irrational.
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I mean if Putin colonized Mexico DC would would go DEFCOM 11
But that's not a threat because of our long history of international relations and trade. That's why the comparison was always stupid.
And NATO isn't a "colony" It's a mutual defense pact. If Putin agreed to trade deals with Mexico, we wouldn't care. In fact, they have had them, for decades, and it was never discussed on this board b/c nobody gives a shite.
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NATO expansion eastward and threatening Ukraine to become a member state is tantamount to Russia colonizing South America
Holy emotional thinking. No it's not.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:50 am to cwill
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We always end up outside of the argument and with the baseless, “you’re a socialist who voted for who I don’t like!”
Never called you a socialist, sweet avoidance of the argument yet again though
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No I'm not. You equated "racist and fascist" groups with the WEF in a "both sides" claim.
See now you're adding qualifiers.
quote:So you're going with the WEF is just an idea?
The boogeyman is everywhere if you define your threat vaguely enough.
You're comparing falsely labeled organizations with organization with overt stated agenas and ideologies. You're doing an excellent job undermining your "both sides" argument, tho.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:51 am to squid_hunt
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How is that different than the dumpingof billions into the economy through Ukraine?
Doesn’t raise domestic natty prices?
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You're the biggest raving leftist troll on this site cwill. Who are you trying to kid?
Link it. I guarantee you I am more of a capitalist with more skin in the game than the vast majority of these online free market wannabe cowboys.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
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Trump
This must eat at you daily. Are you on psych meds too?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:52 am to Taxing Authority
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Why would anyone familiar with the Monroe Doctrine ever think its wrong for anyone else to use a similar approach
Not really comparable. Ukraine wants to legitimately move into Europe. It's within the EU sphere of influence, not Russia.
The Monroe Doctrine also predates real international relations. It's not applicable under the liberal world order post-Cold War.
The Monroe Doctrine officially died when Cuba became Communist, also. That was 80 years ago. It's not a relevant citation in any way, shape, or form.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:53 am to cwill
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Doesn’t raise domestic natty prices?
Yeah, prices have been rock solid since we started pumping Ukraine full of cash. Those markets aren't connected.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:54 am to theunknownknight
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Yea...only if you are freaking retarded and fail to remember I am directly responding to your counter point that "Ukraine was invaded" as if that explains the global awareness and solidarity while many others are not even reported.
Well you're also wrong. International invasion is pretty rare. The US did it in Iraq 20 years ago. Russia did it in Georgia in...2012? Ukraine in 2014, too.
Lots of civil wars and proxy wars, but few legitimate international invasions. That's why this was so shocking.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
If someone in February says they can burn your house to the ground if they want to, and in September your house burns to the ground, where do you start your investigation?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Russia did it in Georgia in...2012? Ukraine in 2014, too.
Weird how it seems to skip an administration
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:55 am to LNCHBOX
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Just like Trump is literally Hitler to those same people
Um, yes, exactly.
Leftists label their boogeymen as existential threats the same as Trumpkins. That was literally my point.
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You fricking dunce.
Have you lost the ability to read?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:56 am to ItNeverRains
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, and in September your house burns to the ground, where do you start your investigation?
Depends. Are you a Putin lover? Cause otherwise you have to blame Putin.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's completely irrational.
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Mr. Kissinger courted controversy earlier this year by suggesting that incautious policies on the part of the U.S. and NATO may have touched off the crisis in Ukraine. He sees no choice but to take Vladimir Putin’s stated security concerns seriously and believes that it was a mistake for NATO to signal to Ukraine that it might eventually join the alliance: “I thought that Poland—all the traditional Western countries that have been part of Western history—were logical members of NATO,” he says. But Ukraine, in his view, is a collection of territories once appended to Russia, which Russians see as their own, even though “some Ukrainians” do not. Stability would be better served by its acting as a buffer between Russia and the West: “I was in favor of the full independence of Ukraine, but I thought its best role was something like Finland.”
That crazy old man...
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