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re: Biden Advisor- “This is the Future of the Liberal World Order and We Have to Stand Firm”
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:05 am to Decatur
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:05 am to Decatur
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I think it’s ok to not appreciate Trump campaign members and associates cultivating contacts with adversarial Russian agents.
No, you are a liar.
Obama sent his person TO RUSSIA before he was ever sworn in.
FACT.
It is customary for post-election transition officials to work with their counterparts in foreign governments to lay the groundwork for relations with the new administration.
Joe Biden's transitions team did it too. Why... It's NORMAL!
Obama sent McFaul to Russia WELL before being sworn in.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 10:10 am
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:13 am to the808bass
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Correlation isn’t causation. But there’s a pretty high correlation to the timing of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the biggest spike in US gas prices since Biden took office.
I would agree that Russia worsened the situation. But "what do you tell Americans struggling with gas prices (and the price of everything else)" being met with "well we have to face down authoritarians" is pathetic.
And I know you agree with that, so I'm just saying it out loud
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:43 am to Pettifogger
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I would agree that Russia worsened the situation. But "what do you tell Americans struggling with gas prices (and the price of everything else)" being met with "well we have to face down authoritarians" is pathetic.
That's fine
But THAT ain't what this thread is about
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:48 am to Pettifogger
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And I know you agree with that, so I'm just saying it out loud
Absolutely. It’s been the idiocy of the Biden policy which has worsened the situation.
1) they pushed for war rather than peaceful means of resolving the conflict
2) while Russia disrupted oil and gas supply, Biden‘s administration has doubled down on policies which hamstring production here.
Any idiot could see what the goal is. And I suspect that Ukraine is 1) a MIC payoff with shades of money laundering and 2) a wag the dog situation where already rising prices and inflationary pressure is blamed on the nearest convenient scapegoat.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:54 am to VADawg
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High oil prices and inflation in general are not a mistake.
There are still people who don't think this is being done on purpose?
Unfortunately the vast majority of republicans are not picking up on this. They are so fixated on how senile Biden is and thus think all these policies are the fumblings of a grandpa out of touch.
Nobody is fumbling anything. As Biden's economic advisor said this week, $5 gasoline is a cost they feel we have to bear for the advancing of their agenda.
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Every economic decision made by this administration is made with the purpose of transferring wealth from likely Republican voters (middle class, small business owners, regular working people, etc...) to likely democrat voters (corporations, the ultra rich, those on government assistance, government employees, etc...).
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:27 am to Jjdoc
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This is about the future of the Liberal World Order and we have to stand firm
I don’t recall anyone asking me if I approve of this liberal world order.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:29 am to Jjdoc
These idiots don’t realize that 90% of the world doesn’t want this LWO. These people are arrogant and very stupid
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:38 am to xxTIMMYxx
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These idiots don’t realize that 90% of the world doesn’t want this LWO.
Who is opposed to the liberal democracy model?
Russia, North Korea, the ME, and?
China, India, etc. have liberalized the hell out of their countries the past 20 years. It's why they are developing at such a high rate. The success stories you see in Africa are also doing it on the back of giving up authoritarian or socialist models for governments and societies that are much more similar to liberal democracies.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Nobody is opposed to liberal democracy. Everybody is opposed to a global command and control oligarchy. Which is what the elites in the West are pushing.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:49 am to wutangfinancial
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Everybody is opposed to a global command and control oligarchy. Which is what the elites in the West are pushing.
But was not what was being referenced in the quote used for OP. That's the whole point.
The West has been pushing for a "Liberal World Order" since the end of WW2 and it's gone pretty well for the US, Europe, and developing areas that adopted the model (see: Japan v. China and SK v. NK). That's the big international-global shift post-WW2: the spread of liberal democracies. This led to a multi-decade conflict with a philosophical opponent of this system, causing the Cold War. When the enemy of liberal democracies, Communism, failed, the "Liberal World Order" began.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:49 am to Decatur
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some of them are getting authoritarian-curious
Like the Covid Nazis?
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:55 am to Jjdoc
Surprised no one's pointed out that this fricker works for Blackrock
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Don’t fall for the rhetorical games. That’s why you’re confused. The new liberal world order is a technocratic oligarchy. Which would just be fascism in reality. They know what’s best and you will love it.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:02 am to wutangfinancial
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Don’t fall for the rhetorical games. That’s why you’re confused.
This thread is the closest thing to a "rhetorical game".
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. The new liberal world order is a technocratic oligarchy. Which would just be fascism in reality. They know what’s best and you will love it.
What this board is scared of, and I have been railing against since they were supporting GWB and our War in Iraq and the WOD, amongst other things, is crypto-Marxism (which I have argued isn't that far from fascism so the label game isn't huge).
The problem is certain actors on the international stage are good at this internet thing and certain charlatans on the American right have seized on this opportunity to proliferate the talking points of those actors. Lots of memetic spread from this propaganda. It's rotted the brains of many in the echo chamber to make stupid threads like this to conflate simple concepts into the propagandized memes.
The OP did not discover the original article to post here, and neither did the 5-10 other people who also posted similar threads (with almost identical titles). They are just spreading the propaganda from the bad actors, which is why I come here to point out how stupid these threads are, in an attempt to jog brain cells loose to start working again.
To summarize: there are actual enemies out there. Wasting your time spreading propaganda from one of those enemies isn't helping do anything to help. It's just creating division that ensures one of our enemies will win.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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To summarize: there are actual enemies out there
Correct and we have clowns doing clown things while they are making moves in the background. Our response to Russia is a larger threat to the US than Russia itself as an example.
I would guess most DC and corporate elites think that resistance and opposition to their fantasies are a larger threat than the CCP is. They also think our standard of living is a larger threat. It’s not hard to figure out why there’s mass confusion on a term like this when nobody believes anything these people say anymore.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:12 am to wutangfinancial
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Our response to Russia is a larger threat to the US than Russia itself as an example.
The problem is Russia is one of those actual enemies, possibly the biggest one.
They started a war without any actual provocation.
And if you want to see just how big of a threat Russia is to us, watch the Russian-created propaganda responses to that simple truth.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:35 am to Decatur
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I think it’s ok to not appreciate Trump campaign members and associates cultivating contacts with adversarial Russian agents.
I mean, Obama and Biden did it.
I am sure that you are okay with that.
If you goose-steppers didn’t have double standards, then you wouldn’t have any at all.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
There were ways to be assertive with Russia before they stepped into Ukrainian territory without bastardizing our “free” markets, due process and property “rights.” Now ah there’s left to do is a peace deal and we are clearly unwilling. Sads for the Europeans who could be living in mid evil times if Putin wakes up on the wrong side of the bed.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
[quote]The statement actually says we have to stop dictators doing actually terrible things, but somehow the response to that is being a dictator” dude if you don’t think Biden isn’t being a dictator, You have lost every fricking marble in your head and there’s no helping you
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