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Bernie: "I do not know" how much medicare for all will cost, "nobody knows"

Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:34 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:34 pm
quote:

“You don't know how much your plan costs?"

@BernieSanders: "You don't know. Nobody knows. This is impossible to predict."


Bernie, this is kind of important

good for cbs for pressing him on it.

People who support medicare for all and other forms of socialized healthcare are absolutely clueless and vague on specifics.

This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:35 pm to
Like he would fricking care even if he knew
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18396 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:37 pm to
Bernie went on to say, "but it really doesn't matter, the rich white devil will foot the bill". Follow up at 11.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37638 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

You don't know. Nobody knows. This is impossible to predict."


True
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:39 pm to
Bernie does know where the money will come from, tho. A nice chunk of the money for Bernie’s plan will come from that well over-bloated military budget. There is no mystery there.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16222 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:39 pm to
How can you be in favor of something that you don’t know how much it will cost?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:39 pm to
This dude is a fricking train wreck. No wonder the DNC torpedoes him.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:42 pm to
I remember when I was 6 years old and I thought my mother's checkbook was an endless money supply.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

A nice chunk of the money for Bernie’s plan will come from that well over-bloated military budget. There is no mystery there.


clueless.

If we cut military spending to european levels (something not politically possible and unwise on its face), it would account for a mere 10% of medicare for all costs.

Maybe at your smelly union hall that math works out, but not in the real world.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 9:01 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:43 pm to
He’ll just let the death panels work their magic.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:44 pm to
I'm sure "we'll pay whatever it costs" is an excellent way to keep costs down too.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79697 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:45 pm to
I’ll repeat one more time: Bernie is an economic retard. He talks big, has grandiose ideas...no plan whatsoever. It’s all talking out of his arse, playing to stupid people who have even less of a clue than he does.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:48 pm to
Cooky old man with wild hair and waving his arms around like a patient that escaped from an insane asylum
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5271 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

we cut military spending to european levels (something not politically possible and unwise on its face), it would account for a mere 7% of medicare for all costs.


Not sure where you’re getting this info.
$649 billion military budget
Medicare costs $500 billion
If we cut to European levels ($100 bil), it would 100% pay for Medicare.

I don’t agree with Sanders, but there’s no need to misrepresent reality.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:52 pm to
Typical trumpanzie logic. Most of the trumpanzies complain about the US footing the military bill for other countries, then get upset when they find out that much of the military savings will go toward the huge medical expense problems in this country.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17080 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:54 pm to
I wonder how history will treat this group of Democratic Presidential candidates?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:59 pm to
So not “free”?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Not sure where you’re getting this info.
$649 billion military budget
Medicare costs $500 billion
If we cut to European levels ($100 bil), it would 100% pay for Medicare.

I don’t agree with Sanders, but there’s no need to misrepresent reality.
medicare now costs 500 billion

medicare for all would cost 3.5-4 trillion a year according to most studies.

I actually was off, but not by that much.

If we cut military spending by 500 billion annually, it would amount to about 10-12% of medicare for all costs.

but this is NEVER going to happen. No way would there be political support for such a drastic reduction in military spending.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:03 pm to
Cherry picker.

He also has explained that the current system employs 800,000 people not needed in.medicare, the current system is permitted by congress to make twice off the top what medicare does.

You skipped the best parts.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Not sure where you’re getting this info.
$649 billion military budget
Medicare costs $500 billion
If we cut to European levels ($100 bil), it would 100% pay for Medicare.

Now add Medicaid...
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