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Ben Shapiro new article on the "southern strategy" and its misleadings

Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:52 pm
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according to Professors Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin, “the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth.” The movement toward Republicanism in the south began in the 1950s as the south industrialized. Working-class whites and blacks remained Democrat until the 1990s. Here’s the New York Times reporting

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To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.



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Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics agrees: he says that the GOP gradually increased its support in the south from 1928 to 2010. As Dan McLaughlin summarizes, “As late as 2010, there were still states like Alabama and North Carolina that were voting in their first Republican legislative majorities since Reconstruction — something that would have happened overnight in the late 60s if the partisan realignment had been driven by lockstep white voting loyalties on racial lines.”


LINK

Really interesting articles he provided.

The following map of the 1980 presidential election seems to lend credence to the idea that poor white southerners were still voting heavily for democrats well after civil rights era.

Reagan won the south by tiny margins because of large support in wealthy suburbs.



Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66785 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:58 pm to
he was right then and is right now. kanye is not a conservative.
Posted by 225bred
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:58 pm to
As brilliant and talented as Shapiro is as a Conservative voice.

I hate how he is always too cool for school about everything.. before coming around to it.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21562 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:59 pm to
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ugh, this guy isn't a conservative and uh, I don't really care what celebrities have to say. this isn't important."



1.) Kayne isn't a conservative, he just tweeted support for the Parkland kids pushing for the removal of the 2nd Amendment.

2.) He said people shouldn't care about what celebrities have to say unless they're well versed in whatever they're talking about. But he has to care about it because a lot of people do care about it.

How was he wrong about either of those?
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:00 pm to
Liddle Ben Shapiro is an Israel first cuck.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:01 pm to
The hatred for Shapiro on this board is baffling to me. He’s one of the top conservative voices in America, up there with Levin and Rush and y’all can’t help but bash him.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:02 pm to
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The hatred for Shapiro


I like Ben.

I don't always agree with him. But, I like him just fine.

The hate for him on this board is a wee bit odd to me too.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66785 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:03 pm to
yeah, i don't get it either. bunch of antisemitic posters up in here.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:06 pm to
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yeah, i don't get it either. bunch of antisemitic posters up in here.


Couple that with the board’s ridiculous hatred of Israel and I really can’t help but wonder if your antisemitism claim isn’t true.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:07 pm to
Yeah, this board really hates Israel, I don't get it..
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:08 pm to
The map looks interesting but weren't many in the South just voting for a Southerner named Jimmy Carter over an actor from California in 1980?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:08 pm to
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The hatred for Shapiro on this board is baffling to me. He’s one of the top conservative voices in America, up there with Levin and Rush and y’all can’t help but bash him.
This comparison is insulting to Shapiro.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:09 pm to
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The hatred for Shapiro on this board is baffling to me.


There's only one reason he's hated: He regularly insults the God Emperor and refused to vote for him. It can be boiled down to that.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:10 pm to
What you got against Levin, baw?

I’m not the biggest Rush fan out there, he sometimes comes across a little Alex Jones-y to me.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Posted by DelU249
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Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:12 pm to
He’s not unfair to Trump, he talks good about him when he agrees with what Trump is doing, and talks shite about him when he does things he doesn’t agree with.

I would say that’s commendable, he’s not just going to bury his head in the sand and say MAGA!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:15 pm to
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He’s not unfair to Trump


In this board's mind, being unfair to Trump is simply thinking about any action he does and not saying "MAGA" for every word that comes out of his mouth.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:15 pm to
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ben likes things in small easy to understand packages. he sucks.


He’s a conservative voice, millions of people listen to him daily, I don’t think it’s bad of him to let his listeners know that Kanye isn’t a conservative at all. Hell, he even agreed with Kanye on his stance about free thought, I guess you’re just blinded by your irrational hatred of one of the top conservative voices out there.
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