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re: Bayou Brief just ended Ralph Abrahams shot at Gov

Posted on 8/29/19 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23449 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 2:45 pm to
So wait he is a dr that write scripts?? Not

But I do know for a fact you are a dumbass
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 3:26 pm to
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This story is so pathetic that JBE's press office (aka the Advocate) is not covering it.


i wonder if the old lady in JBE’s commercial that had cancer but was “saved” by the medicaid expansion was prescribed opiates....
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Bayou Brief just ended Ralph Abrahams shot at Gov



No they did not.

Lamar White runs Bayou Brief and he's the same democrat hack that tried to smear Steve Scalise by linking him to KKK events and nothing came of it and he's the second most powerful republican in the House of Reps today.

Oh and there's this from a local pharmacist who's not a fan of Abraham who knows more than Lamar White ever will....

Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 3:47 pm to
You went full retard.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 4:03 pm to
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You democrats are f**king desperate if this is all you have to go on because Doc will destroy gov honor code and his lying arse with facts at any debate since Doc actually understands medicine and JBE only understands fricking Louisiana's taxpayers.


Edwards's press shop The Advocate releasing bad polls with adjusted data for the numbers they want.

GumboPac trying to slime Rispone and Abraham with shitty commercials that they are forced to rework or take down.

And now, Louisiana democrats oppo dumping ground, Bayou Brief, is pushing defamatory stories about Abraham being a drug dealer, a story so sleazy not even JBE or the advocate will touch it.




Goddamn, they are fricking scared Honor Code is living on borrowed time, will not win the first round outright and and a conservative reformer is going to win the runoff and end their gravy train.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37510 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 4:06 pm to
1.4 million pills over a 5 year period across a 6 K population is hardly pill mill stuff
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17618 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 4:06 pm to
Personal responsibility has to come into question on this opioid issue at some point. Why is it always someone else's fault???
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23004 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 4:21 pm to
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It is 5 pills per person per year. That is one days worth of pain pills per person per year. That is not a lot.


That's also assuming everyone who fills a prescription for an opiod is actually using them. I had a couple of wisdom teeth removed earlier this year and got a 7 (I think it supposed 2 a day so 14 total) day really low mg prescription as a precaution. I didn't take a single one but I still filled that prescription as a precaution because I wasn't sure how much pain I would be in.

It's such a ridiculous gotcha article and of course IBfreeman is making a ridiculous, emotional, argument that makes no sense whatsoever.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:00 pm to
Look WeeWee I said
quote:

Unless there was an opioid in the drip that was connected to me when I came out of surgery I have never taken an opioid.

I was not wrong--I did not know as I orginally said.


Now I want to understand how you so flippantly dismiss this huge usage of opioids. I am not speaking at all about Abraham. You say what his pharmacy is doing is no big deal I believe you feel that way. I believe you really aren't surprised by the numbers the one poster said the WalMart in Winnsboro is selling.

Explain to me just why we should not be alarmed that in such a small population of people so many prescriptions by doctors are being written and filled for opioids. That is what I want to know.

What do the doctors in the so called pain clinics do besides write prescriptions for opioids? Are you a pain clinic doc? Are they really legal drug pushers as many say?

Now here for your information is what a medicaid patient pays for prescriptions

quote:

Prescription Co-Pays

For many members, medications are covered at no cost to you. Some members may need to pay for a small portion of their medications. This is called a “copay.” Louisiana Healthcare Connections pays for the rest of the cost.

The table below lists copays based on the actual cost of the prescription.
PRESCRIPTION COST COPAY
$10.00 or less $0.5
Between $10.01 and $25.00 $1.00
Between $25.01 and $50.00 $2.00
More than $50.01 $3.00



So the most they pay is $3.

I am no medical expert but I do not know a thing or two about supply and demand and price and demand.

I guarantee you if tomorrow we ended paying for opioids with medicaid and medicare the usage would dramatically decline. I suspect that NOTHING has added to the opiod epidemic more than damn near free drugs.

Now you tell me that you think a regular prescription is only $14. Even a $14 the demand will be much less than it is at $.50 (the cost in the above example for a $14 script.) I suggest we tax the stuff $10 more and make is $24.

Nothing would do more to reduce use and abuse than to make them cost more. We should definitely end medicare and medicare use for opiod prescriptions. No more than they cost those people can pay cash for them

No way docs should have a say in the subsidies taxpayers should pay for the cost of drugs. That is a huge conflict of interest.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 9:10 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20864 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:02 pm to
What the heck is a little corruption? Fits in well with all of Washington D.C.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:17 pm to
Everybody should look at this map from the CDC

LINK

This map says Franklin parish has 100.2 prescriptions for opioids written per 100 people per YEAR!!!!

But they are not alone--several Parishes have the same kind of number some dramatically higher and some much lower. Doctors are writing these prescriptions.

Now only 7.9% of the population spends at least one night per year in a hospital.

This has to stop. friggin take an aspirin.

This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12685 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:30 pm to
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If a person takes a pain pill every 4-6 hours. That makes it about 6 days worth of pills per person per year. Obviously it is more complicated than that because cancer pt and chronic pain syndrome patients take way more than 6 days worth of pain meds per year.


Well, yea and most kids take virtually none and I’d imagine large majority of adults too. So it cuts both ways

But hearing the hospital for a large area is there will obviously make the per capita data wonky without digging in deeper so it’s a bad article that doesn’t prove anything
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:46 pm to
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This map says Franklin parish has 100.2 prescriptions for opioids written per 100 people per YEAR!!!!


This metric means little. It is much more important to know how many unique utilizers per 100 people there are and how many scripts per utilizer.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115332 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 10:40 pm to
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We should end medicaid and medicare TODAY


FIFY
Posted by LSU Fireman
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
467 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:16 am to
I ghurss so the’the’re. all on Opioids
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28560 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:41 am to
I’d like to know what the pharmacies charge for a gallon of milk. The cost of milk at pharmacies is a freaking crime.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37265 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:38 am to
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I am not saying Abraham did anything wrong but if a community that small is consumer 1.4 million pain pills over 5 years doctors are WAY over prescribing pain meds. They took my gall bladder out and give me a prescription I never used. Unless there was an opioid in the drip that was connected to me when I came out of surgery I have never taken an opioid.


Not sure why you keep saying this. Whether or not you have taken opioids, or whether anyone in your family regularly takes medication has zero bearing on the rate of opioids prescribed to the population at large.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37265 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:42 am to
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STILL a huge number. What other maladies use 4 pills a day for a year?


Four pills a day is not a huge number for cancer
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