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re: Bayou Brief just ended Ralph Abrahams shot at Gov

Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37737 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:28 pm to
Shhhhhh... I b chinaman thinks that 193x4x365=772

You can’t expect someone so stupid to be able to comprehend how few pain pills that Actually is.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2730 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:33 pm to
According to the story they provided more pills than the other pharmacies COMBINED. All these numbers everyone is throwing around whether it be 2% of the population or 5% of the population, you are talking about two pharmacies. You know there are plenty more out there as well. These are huge numbers if true. I dont have a dog in the hunt but damn yalls politicians are crooked.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:36 pm to
IB, do you have a medical background?

I’m guessing zero.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:38 pm to
Eh, we don’t know what drug or what size dose on those pills so much of this is pretty meaningless. And even if we had this, we don’t know the treatment plans. So anyway, funny to see you fools fall for a smear job.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37737 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:39 pm to
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These are huge numbers if true.


But they aren’t. Unclench your pearls.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
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A quick google shows that there are 484 per 100000 people diagnosed with cancer every year. So if you multiple that ratio by the 40,000 number (is it right?) that is 193 cases per year. I


Yes

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If every one of those cancer patients took 4 pills a day for a year you still are only administering 772 pills per year for cancer victims in that area.


It is a damn good thing that you are not allowed to prescribe medications. You forgot multiply by the number of days in a year.

193 patients * 4 pills/patient/day = 772 pills/day. 772 pills/day * 365 days/ year = 282,65 pills/year. 282,656 pills/year * 6 years = 1,695,936 pills total.

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Now add up every malady that might require chronic pain meds and compare to the cancer number and you will never get to 1.4 million pills.


You are right. The number would be way higher, but obviously cancer patients do not receive pain pills every day of the year, but the math is completely realistic when you remember to multiply it by the days of the year.
Posted by LafTiger
Member since Dec 2008
1569 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:43 pm to
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It is mind boggling to me that 1.4 million pain pills over even 6 years dispensed in the communities of Mangrum and Winsboro by just two pharmacies is not a huge number in the minds of everybody.



No, what's mind boggling is just how small some people's minds are that they cannot comprehend economies of scale and what actual distribution looks like....

For comparison the Lafayette area has roughly 400K in population, it would seem to be outrageous that without fountain drinks the largest soft drink distributor puts out somewhere in the neighborhood of 28,000,000 cans of soft drinks in a year...that seems outrageous but in reality that's an average of a little more than 1 can of soft drink per person per week....

Those with limited understanding, understand little.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37140 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:48 pm to
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Aren’t they just filling the prescriptions? Should the pharmacist now be the person to decide whether or not a person should get pain pills?

They have some reporting responsibilities, so yes.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36013 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:51 pm to
Wonder if has good prices on Vicodin? How about blood pressure meds? How many statins? What about the metfomin to Snickers ratio now that's a bigger deal. Joker creating his own business .He's got vertical integration going on
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:54 pm to
I was wrong on the math BUT it is HUGE and no I am not a medical person.

I will say this no doctors should be making the calls on whether taxpayers should be paying for this or not.

We should end medicaid and medicare reimbursement of opioids TODAY if these numbers are typical.

What WeeWee does a typical medicaid person have to pay for the typical prescription of opioids?

Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:58 pm to
I know two people who were patients of Docs and were hooked on opiods.

I said WERE patients. Because he cut them off when it was obvious their recovery should have been complete. They found someone else to write their prescriptions.

This is a liberal hit piece, and also selective outrage.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:58 pm to
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According to the story they provided more pills than the other pharmacies COMBINED.


The story is bullshite. The writer has probably never been to Mangham or Winnsboro before and does not realize that the pharmacies serve larger populations and he gives nothing to back up his numbers.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37737 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 1:05 pm to
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BUT it is HUGE


Wrong.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 1:06 pm to
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I was wrong on the math BUT it is HUGE and no I am not a medical person.

I will say this no doctors should be making the calls on whether taxpayers should be paying for this or not.



Wrong on the math

Wrong on if you had ever taken opioids.

Wrong on this assertion too. Doctors, nurses, pharmacists, etc are exactly the ones that we need in charge of this issue because doctors, nurses, pharmacists etc actually know what the frick they are dealing with. You just admitted that you are no medical person so what in the world makes you think that you are qualified to determine what medicaid and medicare and other insurances reimburse for?

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What WeeWee does a typical medicaid person have to pay for the typical prescription of opioids?


I do not know. It varies from state to state and pharmacy to pharmacy and insurance to insurance. I wish that I was making that up but that is why Trump and others are pushing for price transparency. The best that I can give you is from GoodRX but I am in WV and the price is different in La. According to GoodRx 60 pills (10 day supply) of Norco 10mg is $14.00 which comes out to $1.40/day. I have not idea what it costs WV medicaid or what it would cost La medicaid though. I do not even know how to go about looking it up since medicaid, medicare, and private insurance are forbidden by law from publishing the price.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 1:09 pm to
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I was wrong on the math BUT it is HUGE and no I am not a medical person.


Right, because if you were, you would know there are important variables missing from this equation and that no meaningful conclusion can be drawn from this info. Your leftist colors are showing.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39739 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I was wrong on the math BUT it is HUGE and no I am not a medical person.


Why is it huge?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 2:23 pm to
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This hatchet job shows that the Dems and JBE are worried about RA. Fake news from a weirdo from Alexandria living with his two dogs in New Orleans. Never heard of his “paper’.




This story is so pathetic that JBE's press office (aka the Advocate) is not covering it.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 2:29 pm to
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We should end medicaid and medicare reimbursement of opioids TODAY if these numbers are typical.





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no I am not a medical person.


Clearly.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14980 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 2:29 pm to
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This story is so pathetic that JBE's press office (aka the Advocate) is not covering it.


Just wait...
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 2:33 pm to
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We should end medicaid and medicare reimbursement of opioids TODAY if these numbers are typical.


Why Spaniel do you laugh at that??

If the prescriptions are basically no cost to the medicaid and medicare people you know they are asking for them and getting them a lot more than they would be if they had to pay something for them.
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