re: Bakhmut has Fallen - Wagner Announces Capture of Bakhmut

Ya killin me Chief, keep it up.

So I was wrong on the 33% ONLY thats ONLY 20% of the country has run like scalded dogs. Now they are either too afraid to fight for their "sovereign" country, or, they are smart enough not to die for zewees bank account, Im guessing the latter.

Face fellas, the Rubicon has been crossed, Ukraine is spent and no amount of US tax dollars can fix the issue there are very few boots left on the ground, Europe is still not ponying up enough money or sending any troops, so they dont see a threat beyond Ukraine. So what is the US spending money on??????????

If Europe was that concerned some country, any country would engage....instead of hiding behind the skirts of mama NATO hoping they can force the US into it.

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Face fellas, the Rubicon has been crossed, Ukraine is spent and no amount of US tax dollars can fix the issue there are very few boots left on the ground, Europe is still not ponying up enough money or sending any troops, so they dont see a threat beyond Ukraine. So what is the US spending money on??????????

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The whole endeavor is a fools errand. Ukraine doesn’t have the bodies to stand up to Russia. Putin and Russia as a whole, have proven that they’re willing to throw as many people to the wolves as needed.

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This is true but Wagner isn't being reinforced with prisoners or retirees anymore

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Probably true but they did bleed Ukraine dry.

The whole russian army was saved the task and now is poised for the operation known as "operation spring garden" also called the great Ukraine spring offensive....and pretty soon it will be June as in summer....and now we have started to hear the excuses about mud again.

Seriously this is like Monty and Spring Garden, never enough equipment, never enough troops and when they finally get off their arse it will be a disaster.

Some of the most important battles in history were fought in middle of nowhere locations like Gettysburg. I know critical thinking is tough though.

You should look at a map. All of the rail lines converge in Bakhmut, that's why Ukraine tried to defend it to the last man. Whoever controls it controls the supply lines to every other area that's being contested.

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Some of the most important battles in history were fought in middle of nowhere locations like Gettysburg.

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Gettysburg wasn’t in the middle of nowhere. It was an important road junction with 10 roads leading in and out. Virtually every major road in south-central PA led to Gettysburg. Its road network is a big reason why a battle was fought there in the first place. It was also a county seat and home to three academic institutions of higher learning.

Ukrainian forces are launching assaults both north and south of the city and are gaining ground. It looks like they are attempting to encircle Bakhmut, thereby trapping Wagner inside the city.

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Ukraine doesn't have enough troops left to encircle Bakhmut.

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That might be true. Time will tell. But it’s as equally likely that Wagner no longer has the capability to do anything with their victory. The ground to the west of the city is good for defense, which is why so many analysts were wondering why the Ukrainians were fighting so fiercely for control of the city.

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You've killed them all.

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I’m not Russian so no, I did not.

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Ukrainian forces are launching assaults both north and south of the city and are gaining ground. It looks like they are attempting to encircle Bakhmut, thereby trapping Wagner inside the city.

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Bold strategy. Waste thousands of lives losing it only to "really" take it back this time.

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Bakhmut has Fallen - Wagner Announces Capture of Bakhmut by JayDeerTay84
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I'm not understanding the animosity over a city that is the equivalent of capturing a useless hill in Vietnam


If that was the case, why would Ukraine partake in a battle of attrition, which it is already out manned, for useless land? Why not reform on lines more favorable and let the Russians over-extend again?

Ah, well, because you don't know shite.

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Here is another just trying to be right and not have a discussion. Are you guys going through something in life? It isn't necessary to act like a teenager on Twitter. None of us are 100% correct on this. I do not think a message board primarily consisting of people in the least educated, welfare state in rhe nation is out thinking everyone in this war.