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re: AZ AG refuses to act in Maricopa AFTER law signed by Gov.. This is to get rid of you!
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:25 am to moneyg
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:25 am to moneyg
quote:This is NOT the most bigoted and reductionist post that I have ever seen on this forum, but it rates a spot in the Hall of Fame.
Of course you are. You are someone whose worldview is driven by his homosexuality. Because of that, you are a leftist and often approach issues emotionally instead of logically. I don't think any rational person would expect someone like you to agree with the collective views of a conservative message board.
But, that's not the problem. The problem is your intellectual dishonesty and inability to address issues logically and fairly. I mean, in this very thread you are going on about "people like you storming the capitol" and "rooting for Covid".
That's amazingly emotional thinking.
Kudos.
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
quote:
I will be honest. I have seen only the still photo with the flashlight, not a video. The formatting on GP is so awful (and the articles have so many ads shoehorned into the middle of the text) that I can never FIND videos that they link.
quote:
If someone can provide a clean link to the video, I would love to watch it.
It would not matter. And we all know it.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:28 am to BBONDS25
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Did you watch the video? Was affiliation seen? Is that in compliance with the law?
I can't believe this is still being argued. Old return ballot envelopes had party id either visible through a window or written on the envelope itself. Now, neither is the case. The envelope is of a type that does not reveal that information. Yes, it is in compliance with the law. Using other outside measures such as a flashlight do not change that.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:28 am to AggieHank86
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I suppose it is POSSIBLE that mail carriers might sit around for hours sorting outgoing ballots and spying into them with flashlights.
Or, you know, the vote counters. Like when the public and poll monitors are not allowed to observe, like this...
Or when the vote counting continues passed the established cutoff dates, everyone is sent home, then at 2 or 3 in the morning the counting resumes. You know, like this...
Or when there is a fabricated pipe burst that results in poll watchers being removed. Like this...
It's funny how leftists and AggieHank's find it completely unbelievable that the honor system would not be upheld by election workers.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:30 am to BugAC
quote:It is sad when I must TELL you people that I am making fun of you.
You mean this one, that someone put a light behind? Not exactly a "CT scan" as Selma Lou was crying about.
"I was making fun of you."
Friend, you did not even know that you were initially relying upon the WRONG envelope. The material writes itself.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:31 am to Mickey Goldmill
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The envelope is of a type that does not reveal that information. Yes, it is in compliance with the law.
Does the statute address tampering? Does the statute state that the party must not be visible? Is it visible?
quote:
can't believe this is still being argued.
Likely because you didn’t read the statute.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:33 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Visible...but only when you hold a flashlight up to it?
That is a good point - there are no post office workers bright enough to use a flashlight.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:44 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Old return ballot envelopes had party id either visible through a window or written on the envelope itself. Now, neither is the case. The envelope is of a type that does not reveal that information. Yes, it is in compliance with the law.
The wording proves you are lying
quote:
“The officer charged by law with the duty of preparing ballots at any election shall: Ensure that the ballot return envelopes are of a type that does not reveal the voter’s selections OR POLITICAL PARTY AFFILIATION and that is tamper evident when properly sealed.”
ARE
OF
THE
TYPE
The current type allows anybody with a phone to see it.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
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Friend, you did not even know that you were initially relying upon the WRONG envelope. The material writes itself.
And when i posted the correct envelope a few minutes later? I know you were being sarcastic and making fun. That sarcasm is coming from disbelief, by you, at the OP's thread because you are biased. Therefore, anytime fraud is brought up, you 100/100 times always take the hyper-biased leftists side because you, like Hailhailtomichigan, have severe TDS.
I'm sure, if you're RINO favorites like Liz Cheney, Kasich, JEB!, or any of the other losers on that side were controlling the party, and the frontrunners, you'd likely voice the same concerns. But, since you know it's Trump, you tend to side with anyone against Trump.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:45 am to AggieHank86
quote:
It is sad when I must TELL you people that I am making fun of you.
"I was making fun of you."
Friend, you did not even know that you were initially relying upon the WRONG envelope. The material writes itself.
No sir. You are the one wrong.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:49 am to BugAC
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Aggiehank/Mickey: "Yeah, but you have to try really hard to see the votes. Like put the envelope under light."
This is why you 2 are clowns.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:51 am to Fat Bastard
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:55 am to Jjdoc
An elected legislature wrote the statute. Clearly, they could have written it differently, if they had seen a need. They could have also applied it to OUTGOING envelopes, to keep those evil mailmen from refusing to deliver GOP ballots. They did not. They could have required CARDBOARD envelopes, to prevent evil mailmen from using flashlights to read personal mail. They did not.
An elected AG reviewed compliance, and (correctly) determined that the new envelopes comply with the new statute.
Basically, this thread is just part of the ongoing story of people out on the Right fringe insisting that everyone (including most people in their own party) are "out to get them." It is psychotic.
An elected AG reviewed compliance, and (correctly) determined that the new envelopes comply with the new statute.
Basically, this thread is just part of the ongoing story of people out on the Right fringe insisting that everyone (including most people in their own party) are "out to get them." It is psychotic.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:57 am to AggieHank86
quote:
An elected AG reviewed compliance,
Are we believing AGs as conclusive authority now?
The Ohio AG now has the sads. quote:
An elected legislature wrote the statute. Clearly, they could have written it differently, if they had seen a need.
Now do Ohio and Abortion.
Your contrarian schtick has forced you to take completely opposing stances of legal interpretation based upon the subject matter.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 10:00 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:58 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Basically, this thread is just part of the ongoing story of people out on the Right fringe insisting that everyone (including most people in their own party) are "out to get them." It is psychotic.
Nonsense. The envelopes clearly don’t meet the plain wording of the statute. Can party affiliation be determined? Yes or no?
Posted on 7/22/22 at 10:01 am to BBONDS25
quote:Partially-valid point. 10 points to House Gryffindor.
The Ohio AG now has the sads.
quote:Why? I have not claimed that the Ohio legislature did not do exactly what it intended to do.
elected legislature ... now do Ohio and Abortion.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 10:08 am to BBONDS25
quote:Not what the statute says.
Can party affiliation be determined? Yes or no?
quote:The envelopes do not "reveal" this information. It is only by the application of an outside force (here, a bright flashlight) that the information can be ascertained.
ballot return envelopes ... of a type that does not reveal ... political party affiliation
If the concern was that mailmen would be attempting to read the mail, yes, the statute could have been better-written. But the envelopes comply with the statute AS written.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 10:09 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The envelopes do not "reveal" this information. It is only by the application of an outside force (here, a bright flashlight) that the information can be ascertained.
So you can tamper with the envelope to determine party affiliation in a manner that does not make it evident you tampered?
quote:
But the envelopes comply with the statute AS written.
No it doesn’t. It’s clear. You just need to be a contrarian and you are now making arguments you specifically argued against last week.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:12 am to idlewatcher
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AZ is equally as compromised as Kemp and Brad
At least they are doing more to fight it. We have a few good people in Georgia fighting back, but it is a David vs. Goliath fight.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 11:19 am to BBONDS25
quote:
quote:
The envelopes do not "reveal" this information. It is only by the application of an outside force (here, a bright flashlight) that the information can be ascertained.
So you can tamper with the envelope to determine party affiliation in a manner that does not make it evident you tampered?
quote:
But the envelopes comply with the statute AS written.
No it doesn’t. It’s clear. You just need to be a contrarian and you are now making arguments you specifically argued against last week.
This is 100%
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