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re: Austrailia's "Gold Standard" of gun control laws is a failure. Go Figure!

Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:44 am to
Posted by SpecialK_88
Member since Dec 2025
48 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:44 am to
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Im not for banning guns but austrailia literally has less than a tenth of our gun deaths per capita.


Per the UN, homicide rates by guns are actually 40x higher per capita in the US compared to Australia.

You may not completely eliminate things, but all of the data clearly shows you’ll significantly reduce deaths.

Also, it’s pretty ridiculous to say that their policy of gun control is flawed because of one event and not say the same about ours after the crazy amount of school shootings we have.

At the end of the day, it’s a moot point as it will be impossible to implement, but that doesn’t mean we have to all be morons and refute obvious data.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15742 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:56 am to
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Gun deaths dropped by 60 or 70% when the banned them in austrailia.


Ironically 60% of gun deaths in the US are suicide.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25158 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Per the UN, homicide rates by guns are actually 40x higher per capita in the US compared to Australia.



There was a huge study that broke out like ethnic and socio-economic sets comparing America to their cousins in their ancestral countries under different conditions of gun control. Differences in homicide rates vanished. The big driving factor is culture, not access to guns.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18917 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Gun deaths dropped by 60 or 70% when the banned them in austrailia.


No, no they did not. Also, contrary to the claim that Australia didn't have another mass shooting after the 1996 laws were passed, Australia did in fact have many since then. Gun-control groups in Australia lobbied for funding cuts against academic groups that attempted to conduct research on the efficacy of Australian gun-control laws post-Port Arthur knowing the truth would do damage.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38513 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Not being political just putting the real data out.

Since Port Arthur, until yesterday, there were 0 mass shootings in Australia. Gun related deaths had also continually gone down falling from 2.9 per 100,000 people in 1996 to approximately 0.9 per 100,000 in 2016 and 0.88 per 100,000 in 2018. ( Just an FYI Louisiana in 2023 had over 28 per 100,000)

Compare that to the US where just since 2015 to 2022 there was an average of 463 mass shootings per year (mass shooting defined as 4 or more deaths).

I don't think anyone is saying gun laws of any degree will create 0 gun related deaths but when you use Australia and the US as two case studies there are obvious conclusions to be drawn.
It's extremely bizarre that the reaction to ONE mass shooting in 29 years is "muh Australia gun laws have failed".
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170700 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:17 pm to
Considering how frequently they happen here it really is an odd response
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17792 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:56 pm to
Lol. As if gun deaths are really what a populace should worry about once the government takes the guns from the people.

ROFLMAO!!
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