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At the end of the day, this election will come down to 3 states

Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:11 am
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
1855 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:11 am
Michigan

Wisconsin

Pennsylvania

This is assuming Biden can hang on to Minnesota and Nevada, I know Trump has a good chance here but let’s just say Biden holds on. On the flip slide, let’s also assume trump hangs on to Arizona and North Carolina (safer assumption IMO). Trump has to win just one of the 3 above to get to 270. He won all 3 in 2016

Biden just said he’d end fracking and transition from the oil industry. Goodbye Pennsylvania
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:12 am to
2 of 3, but still worried about fraud. Dems will Dem.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17995 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:14 am to
If Trump can pick off Nevada or New Hampshire, it puts a lot of pressure on Biden. Trump wins if he would get one of MI, WI or PA, and Biden would have to sweep.

Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:16 am to
He will win all 3 again and Arizona. I believe he will win NC but it will be close. I also think Trump makes it very close on the national vote as well.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50280 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:17 am to
The only way Trump loses Pennsylvania is due to fraud. Thanks to Roberts, that is a possible outcome.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47119 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:18 am to
quote:

I also think Trump makes it very close on the national vote as well.


The increase in Latino/AA support should vault him ahead in popular vote, so those crying about that won't have it to point to.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:18 am to
wrong. florida all that matter
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11910 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:18 am to
I am very worried about Arizona
Posted by Clashmore Mike
Member since Oct 2014
788 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:25 am to
Florida is still in play (as always).

This is why both Trump (Pensacola and The Villages) and Pence (Lakeland and Tallahassee) will be in Florida during the next few days. Obama will be in Miami on Saturday.
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3078 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:31 am to
quote:

(safer assumption IMO).


I hope you're right but your characterizations of your assumptions are objectively wrong. Trump is projected to lose both states you assume he will win and all three states you think he has a shot at.

And 1/3 of all votes have already been cast.

Pennsylvania
Biden +5
Biden +5 Biden +8
Even Precious Trafalgar group Biden +2.5

Michigan
Biden +12
Biden +7
Biden +10
Precious Trafalgar only has Trump up 0.5% (well within margin of error)

Wisconsin
Biden +5
Biden +8
Biden +8
Precious Trafalgar Has Biden +1.3

North Carolina
Trump +1
Biden +3
Biden +3
Biden +3
Biden +4

Arizona
Biden +1
Biden +3
Biden +6
Biden +3


Posted by Tigertracks
Houma La.
Member since Nov 2007
765 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:35 am to
Trump wins narrowly with FL, AZ, NC, ME2, NE2, and Wisconsin. Should he lose one or both of the two small districts, then he needs to win either Michigan or Pennsylvania instead of Wisconsin.

This assumes Biden wins NV NH MN, Trump wins TX IN IA OH.

The only poll that counts is the one on November 3.
This post was edited on 10/23/20 at 9:38 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47119 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Wisconsin
Biden +5
Biden +8
Biden +8
Precious Trafalgar Has Biden +1.3


Hillary's RCP average entering the election in 2016 was +6.5 and Trump won the state by +0.7

Traditional polling is inherently flawed and only those who follow new (improved) methodologies should be trusted.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:36 am to
Good analysis.
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3078 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Traditional polling is inherently flawed and only those who follow new (improved) methodologies should be trusted.


Do you really believe that these polls, who got it wrong in 2016 but got it right in 2018, are reverting back to 2106 methodology? Of course not. But, hey, it's all we've got to hope for a miracle.

Trump lost this election via his tweets, his dog whistles and what he did or didn't due in April.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25914 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:40 am to
quote:

At the end of the day, this election will come down to 3 states


At this point it might come to California, Hawaii, and New York.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I hope you're right but your characterizations of your assumptions are objectively wrong. Trump is projected to lose both states you assume he will win and all three states you think he has a shot at.






You just posted in the other thread about posting shite that projects your biases
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47119 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

but got it right in 2018


There was a Presidential Election in 2018?

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:47 am to
Why is Trump rallying in NH this weekend?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:48 am to
quote:

are reverting back to 2106 methodology?


Yes.

The people conducting these polls are suicide bombers who will do anything to get rid of OMB.

What have these liars done that would make you give them the benefit of the doubt?

They weren't wrong in 2016 by accident, it was an intentional, coordianated effort to get Hildabitch elected....they didn't suddenly become unbiased.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:50 am to
quote:

but got it right in 2018
They didn't. They did not pick up on the historic gains in the Senate. Ask governor Gilum and Senators Nelson and Mccaskill.
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