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Assault weapons ban rejected in Virginia
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:17 pm
Guvnah Coonman
Virginia Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam's all-in push to ban the sale of assault weapons was rejected in the state's Senate after moderate Democrats joined Republican colleagues to sink the initiative Monday.
Cheers erupted in the committee room packed with gun supporters as senators voted to put the bill on hold for a year so that the state's crime commission could study the issue, the Associated Press reported.
Four Democrats decided to vote with Republicans on the issue, rejecting legislation that aimed to outlaw new sales of some semiautomatic firearms, such as the AR-15 rifle, and require current owners of such firearms to register with the government within the year. The bill would also have criminalized the possession of magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.
The bill's rejection is an embarrassing loss for Northam and Democrats in Virginia, who aimed to use their narrow and new-found majority to push a broad progressive gun control agenda in the state.
Late last month, the state's Democrat-led House, with Northam's backing, moved forward a legislative package containing seven gun control measures, among them was the assaults weapon ban which eventually passed the House last week. But the measures were always destined to face a tough test in the state's Senate, where Democrats only hold a slight 21-19 majority, and thus flipping three Democrats is all that is required to sink a bill.
In response to the news, the governor's spokeswoman vowed "we will be back next year" after sharing that the governor was disappointed by the outcome.
Overwhelming opposition from gun rights supporters have so far stymied efforts by Northam and Democratic lawmakers in the state.
In December, dozens of counties in Virginia vowed to become "sanctuary counties" for gun owners to protect their citizens' Second Amendment rights should any anti-gun laws be passed. One county went a step further, passing a resolution to fund a militia, per the U.S. Constitution, to fight the efforts.
Virginia Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam's all-in push to ban the sale of assault weapons was rejected in the state's Senate after moderate Democrats joined Republican colleagues to sink the initiative Monday.
Cheers erupted in the committee room packed with gun supporters as senators voted to put the bill on hold for a year so that the state's crime commission could study the issue, the Associated Press reported.
Four Democrats decided to vote with Republicans on the issue, rejecting legislation that aimed to outlaw new sales of some semiautomatic firearms, such as the AR-15 rifle, and require current owners of such firearms to register with the government within the year. The bill would also have criminalized the possession of magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.
The bill's rejection is an embarrassing loss for Northam and Democrats in Virginia, who aimed to use their narrow and new-found majority to push a broad progressive gun control agenda in the state.
Late last month, the state's Democrat-led House, with Northam's backing, moved forward a legislative package containing seven gun control measures, among them was the assaults weapon ban which eventually passed the House last week. But the measures were always destined to face a tough test in the state's Senate, where Democrats only hold a slight 21-19 majority, and thus flipping three Democrats is all that is required to sink a bill.
In response to the news, the governor's spokeswoman vowed "we will be back next year" after sharing that the governor was disappointed by the outcome.
Overwhelming opposition from gun rights supporters have so far stymied efforts by Northam and Democratic lawmakers in the state.
In December, dozens of counties in Virginia vowed to become "sanctuary counties" for gun owners to protect their citizens' Second Amendment rights should any anti-gun laws be passed. One county went a step further, passing a resolution to fund a militia, per the U.S. Constitution, to fight the efforts.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:17 pm to Crimson Wraith
What are the chances these Dems flip party after they start to face retribution over their votes?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:19 pm to Crimson Wraith
Interesting - they must have sensed a red wave in the fall if they pushed this through. Remember that blacks are generally pro gun
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:20 pm to Crimson Wraith
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In December, dozens of counties in Virginia vowed to become "sanctuary counties" for gun owners to protect their citizens' Second Amendment rights should any anti-gun laws be passed.
Will be interesting to see if 2nd amendment "sanctuary cities" get the same MSM treatment as illegal immigration sanctuary cities
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:24 pm to Crimson Wraith
What do you know. There are still some D's with common sense.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:25 pm to Crimson Wraith
Sorry CW. I didn't see your thread.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:25 pm to Crimson Wraith
election year.....
if the Ds hold power next year i would be prepared they vote differently
if the Ds hold power next year i would be prepared they vote differently
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:27 pm to Crimson Wraith
Election year they do not want to piss off conservative voters.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:27 pm to bamarep
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Sorry CW. I didn't see your thread.
No problem.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:32 pm to LSU0358
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There are still some D's with common sense.
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:34 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Four Democrats decided to vote with Republicans on the issue, rejecting legislation that aimed to outlaw new sales of some semiautomatic firearms, such as the AR-15 rifle, and require current owners of such firearms to register with the government within the year. The bill would also have criminalized the possession of magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.
This is not 1989 nor the early 90s anymore. If gunowners need to learn anything from this is that you are many and can get things done. When the NSSF says 1/4 long guns being sold is an AR15, you better believe the numbers are there.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:34 pm to roadGator
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This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:36 pm to Crimson Wraith
The vote was to take a year 'to study' the issue. That means...'check my polling numbers'.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:36 pm to Crimson Wraith
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One county went a step further, passing a resolution to fund a militia, per the U.S. Constitution, to fight the efforts.
This county gets it.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:38 pm to tide06
I’m a Virginian raised in the county with the militia.
I understand this very well. frick nova.
I understand this very well. frick nova.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:55 pm to Crimson Wraith
I honestly can't believe it
I would have bet the farm they were going to ram through this and worse
I would have bet the farm they were going to ram through this and worse
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:58 pm to YF12
Oh, I still expect them to ram something through. I just expect them to pull and end-around to do it.
This could include going through a different committee or moving committee seats around to get a favorable number where they need them.
This could include going through a different committee or moving committee seats around to get a favorable number where they need them.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:33 pm to teke184
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Oh, I still expect them to ram something through. I just expect them to pull and end-around to do it.
They may very well do that. I think for right now they'll pass what is expedient like red flag, 1 gun a month and universal background checks. The bad part of that is when those measures fail with the results the public was sold on, the dems will use the failure as proof gun bans are needed.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:04 pm to SirWinston
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They must have sensed a red wave in the fall if they pushed this through
That's going to happen regardless.
The state as a whole is far gone, but many of the State House and Senate seats are going to flip blue to red next election cycle, enough to give Republicans back control of those chambers.
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