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re: As of Today, Russia has lost 62% of the territory it captured during this war.

Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40875 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:13 pm to
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dangerous thoughts and ideas

Every powerful institution in the western world thinks just like you with regards to the Ukraine War. Never underestimate the ability of you morons to somehow frame yourselves as revolutionaries instead of bootlickers.

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12822 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:14 pm to
Your admitting Russia has taken over parts of Ukraine but at the same time down playing Russia. Where do you get the idea it’s easy to take over another country?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Sweet summer child.


Which other active war have we spent billions in direct support?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Where do you get the idea it’s easy to take over another country?


China took us over pretty easy. We have politicians eager to sell more and more.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30871 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Because most of us care about a war being fought close to a place most of us are from.


I am from Louisiana, bitch!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:19 pm to
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China took us over pretty easy.


they bought their influence. $$ is behind it all. People get theirs and sell you out.

American society calls it "racist" to condemn China for anything.
Posted by Cobra Tate
Dubai
Member since Nov 2022
991 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:19 pm to
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At home Russia cant pay their pensioners.


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62802 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:23 pm to
keep wagging that dog
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43827 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Good.

When do we quit funneling money into that Eastern European kleptocracy?



When Russia returns all of its forces back to it's internationally recognized (aka the pre-2014) borders.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:28 pm to
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When Russia returns all of its forces back to it's internationally recognized (aka the pre-2014) borders.


A liberal, I see.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:30 pm to
1. Wikipedia is not an appropriate source for this. Not only does it have a bad reputation in general, but that article is "protected" which means the US govt has told Wikipedia to let them or a "trusted expert" do the write-up. So it's propaganda by our government. That aside, these tallies on land mean nothing.

2. I will keep saying this, I guess, until people finally figure it out: Russia is kicking the shite out of Ukraine. This is not controversial and it should not trigger anyone. This is the expected result.

Every analyst on the planet predicted this. What they did not predict was Russia going in light, as they did. Typical Russian doctrinal approach is to be overwhelming at the outset and they completely abandoned that. Russia made a major mistake. They thought a fellow Slavic nation would come to its senses, rather than bow down to people like Victoria Nuland. Russia was wrong.

Nevertheless, Russia is beating Ukraine like a drum. I would argue that Russia is still very restrained, however.

3. Russian doctrine does not value territory as a primary objective. Every time I see people pre-occupied with territory, I know this person isn't serious about this stuff.

4. Here is some insight into Russian doctrine: hit the enemy where they are weak and use this like a snowball effect; use firepower to initiate maneuver, and to use maneuver to maximize firepower; focus on destroying the enemy not on territory; stay inside the enemy's OODA loop; emphasize planning and battlefield preparation; retain the initiative and exploit success continuously.

I think what we're seeing in Ukraine is the modern Russian equivalent of Attack in Depth.


So, again: They focus on the enemy fighting force, not the terrain.

The Ukrainian fighting force is getting crushed right now.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7652 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:30 pm to
President Poroshenko, speaking of the Donbass, in late 2014, or 2015:

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We will have work. They won’t. We will have pensions. They won’t. We will have social support for children and pensioners. They won’t. Our children will go to school or daycare. Theirs’ will be sheltering (from cannon fire) in cellars. Because they’re good for nothing. That’s how we will win this war.


I guess the worm has turned on them.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19138 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:32 pm to
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As of Today, Russia has lost 62% of the territory it captured during this war.

Russia's main objective is to totally defeat the Ukrainian military and present regime that has been killing ethnic Russians for the past 8-9 years in the eastern part of Ukraine.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4631 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Which other active war have we spent billions in direct support


Not gonna research them all but

$4.5B in total assistance for Yemen civil war

$15.7B in total aid for Syrian civil war
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:36 pm to
Humanitarian assistance.

Goober.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:39 pm to
Putin bros melting hard
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15417 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:40 pm to
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the U.S. government has provided nearly $15.7 billion in humanitarian assistance since the start of the 11-year Syrian crisis


That’s a drop in the bucket compared to what we’ve given Ukraine in less than a year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Putin bros melting hard


Don't give a shite about putin.

You do need to give Z's cock a rest. Youre getting teethmarks on it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:43 pm to
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That’s a drop in the bucket compared to what we’ve given Ukraine in less than a year.


Its not military aid. He's a fricking moron.

We give humanitarian aide to a lot of nations.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101902 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:44 pm to
The strategy is working! We must send Ukraine another $100 billion at once and they can have this thing won yesterday.
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