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re: Article: “Heres how dumb Barr’s... Mifsud theory is”

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Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:18 am to
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Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:22 am to
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Russian collusion was the impetuous for the Mueller Investigation, which was intended from day one to be the justification for impeachment. All based on a conspiracy founded on false evidence.

A conspiracy within the federal government to unseat a sitting president based on criminal misuse of the DOJ and CIA meets every standard for sedition.


Doesn't the theory fall apart when they investigated but did not find evidence of a criminal conspiracy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:24 am to
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Doesn't the theory fall apart when they investigated but did not find evidence of a criminal conspiracy?

no it just shows they didn't execute well enough

i don't think they thought Sessions would recuse himself, personally. that would keep it alive forever
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:34 am to
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no it just shows they didn't execute well enough



Wouldn't successful execution necessarily involve planting fake evidence to support it? I haven't seen anything that comes close to that.

The only conspiracy that makes sense here is one where the goal was to open an investigation to use as election ammo/smear campaign
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:50 am to
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Looking forward to some analysis 


Sure you are.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:00 am to
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The only conspiracy that makes sense here is one where the goal was to open an investigation to use as election ammo/smear campaign


Wow. I’ve been wondering what the latest evolution from the left would be; I guess this is it.

- Lol Drumpf is stupid nobody was spying on him
- Well they were spying but not on Trump; it was just his associates
- Well they were spying on Trump but they’re Awesome Patriots and it was totes justified; just wait until Mueller is done and he’ll be impeached
(Bob Mueller appears on TV and drools for 3 hours)
- Yeah but he wasn’t exonerated and he’s still guilty of something dammit. Peach mint!
- Forget Russia Russia Russia, its Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine! Quid pro quo!!!!!! Peach mint!!!!

We are here, apparently

- Lol just kidding it was never about removing Trump and overturning an election, we just used the DOJ and intel community to smear him a bit because we’re putting up a slate of tards in 2020 and we need a little help. That’s not as bad, right?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:13 am to
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but i'm saying, US agents likely never directly communicated with Mifsud. it seems like they coordinated with Western intel assets in the UK and AUS, and THOSE guys ran the op. this way, when WE got the intel (from Downer, likely) it was "cleansed" of US influence. so domestic LEO could present that intel to a FISA court without disclosing their role in the operation (b/c it came to them as "foreign intelligence"). this means, no need to worry about things like that declaration (since it wasn't our operation and our guys didn't contact Mifsud)


I'm a little confused because this effort was an attempt to obtain a FISA warrant concerning George Papadapolous.

We know there was a FISA warrant on Carter Page. Is there another FISA warrant on George Papadapolous too?

Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:27 am to
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The only conspiracy that makes sense here is one where the goal was to open an investigation to use as election ammo/smear campaign


Bmy thinks he’s cute and going to equate lying to the fisa court to spy on a presidential campaign to asking a foreign power to look into established corruption.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:51 am to
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Lol just kidding it was never about removing Trump and overturning an election, we just used the DOJ and intel community to smear him a bit because we’re putting up a slate of tards in 2020 and we need a little help. That’s not as bad, right?


What evidence did they plant that would have been used to secure impeachment? The dems impeachment efforts were based on Trumps potentially obstructive conduct during the investigation -- not for conspiracy which Mueller did not find.

A conspiracy theory revolving around intelligence members lying/misleading the FISA court to open an investigation that did not find evidence of a criminal conspiracy..

Definitely a coup
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 10:54 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:04 am to
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What evidence did they plant that would have been used to secure impeachment? T


They planted false information about the trump campaign having access to Hillary’s emails through Russia and put it in a fisa warrant
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:06 am to
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A conspiracy theory revolving around intelligence members lying/misleading the FISA court to open an investigation that did not find evidence of a criminal conspiracy..

Definitely a coup


The goals was to get an investigation going to find something / anything to nail him on. But you know this.

Also, mods pm’d me for calling bs on your pm in the fake whistleblower thread.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:33 am to
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Also, mods pm’d me for calling bs on your pm in the fake whistleblower thread.


Chatty mod but I appreciate warnings I can comply with instead of bans
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/1/19 at 8:45 am to
Mifsud's angle is Clown City, and he was likely handled directly by Brennan. Brennan's ego wouldn't let a subordinate take credit for something this big.
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