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re: Arizona Audit for Dummies
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:53 am to TulaneFan
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:53 am to TulaneFan
quote:It would be if you find any.
Fraudulent votes seem like a pretty serious issue, wouldn’t you agree?
Do you know what isn't an issue? The voting machines, network equipment, shipments of ballots from China, and vote changing servers in Europe.
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:59 am to mmcgrath
quote:
It would be if you find any.
I didn’t find any, the audit team did. 57,734 of them to be exact.
In one county
Posted on 9/27/21 at 7:13 am to TulaneFan
quote:I won't even debate you on that part. All I am saying is that if you don't care about recounts, then don't do massive showy recounts.
I didn’t find any, the audit team did. 57,734 of them to be exact.
In one county
Just request the data and image files and you can "audit" entire states within a week. Then you might have some extra time to actually investigate the details.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 7:16 am to crewdepoo
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crewdepoo
Posted on 9/27/21 at 7:16 am to mmcgrath
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Do you know what isn't an issue? The voting machines, network equipment, shipments of ballots from China, and vote changing servers in Europe.
Iirc the county refused to turn over the machines and servers. So how do you know there is no issue? Big into assumptions are we?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 7:22 am to Topisawtiger
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Iirc the county refused to turn over the machines and servers. So how do you know there is no issue?
ding!
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One of the big problems is that the system isn't auditable.
If it is not an auditable system, it is not a credible system.
If it is not a credible system, then it deserves no loyalty or confidence from the people.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:22 am to mmcgrath
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won't even debate you on that part. All I am saying is that if you don't care about recounts, then don't do massive showy recounts.
I’ve tried to explain this to you several times.
While performing an audit, you must first establish that the population you are auditing is complete. This is a pretty basic concept, if you are going to draw a conclusion on the population, you need to gain comfort that you had an opportunity to inspect every item in that population.
If you simply request image files, without first drawing those image files from the population, you can’t make claims like “60k out of 1M are potentially fraudulent” because you never confirmed those 60k came from the population itself.
The even more basic concept is that you are doing a recount in the process.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:35 am to mmcgrath
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recount
Liar
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:32 am to OceanMan
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I’ve tried to explain this to you several times.
While performing an audit, you must first establish that the population you are auditing is complete. This is a pretty basic concept, if you are going to draw a conclusion on the population, you need to gain comfort that you had an opportunity to inspect every item in that population.
If you simply request image files, without first drawing those image files from the population, you can’t make claims like “60k out of 1M are potentially fraudulent” because you never confirmed those 60k came from the population itself.
The even more basic concept is that you are doing a recount in the process.
Nonsense. The ballots were all counted and recounted by bipartisans with observers. Same with the image files. At some point you have to let go of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:33 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Accept the facts. You got a high level audit and a recount. No "forensic" audit in sight.
Liar
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:35 am to mmcgrath
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At some point you have to let go of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories.
At some point, you have to let go of the more ludicrous notion that establishment politicians who are fighting transparency in the AZ audit aren't hiding something sinister.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:39 am to mmcgrath
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Nonsense. The ballots were all counted and recounted by bipartisans with observers. Same with the image files. At some point you have to let go of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories.
I have a stack of fifty counterfeit $100 bills which were passed off as a legit $5K in total. The bills were all counted and recounted by bipartisans with observers. It comes out to 50 $100 bills every time. Every count yields the same.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:41 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:43 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Nonsense. The ballots were all counted and recounted by bipartisans with observers. Same with the image files. At some point you have to let go of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories
Recounts are not sufficient when looking for fraud, but you know this. This was never a recount. It was an audit for fraudulent ballots
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:44 am to mmcgrath
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Accept the facts. You got a high level audit and a recount. No "forensic" audit in sight.
the fact is that this investigation was to locate fraud.
the fact is that a recount simply recounts fraudulent ballets....even with subpoenas being ignored and many items to complete the investigation were not turned over.
the fact is that there is more than enough fraudulent votes to change the election.
the fact is that your team is spending millions to block these investigations from happening. Why is that?
the fact is that you are afraid of further investigation because it may show that your team cheated.
I will tell you that I am afraid that the CN have now turned this PROOF of fraud over to politicians to now make legal decisions. I trust almost zero politicians.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:47 am to Auburn1968
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Or make some arrests.
There's no one to arrest. There's no evidence of any crime.
For the cultists, who should be prosecuted? What exactly did they do?
They speak in pronouns and vague terms.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:59 am to TBoy
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There's no one to arrest. There's no evidence of any crime.
Pack it in, ladies and germs. lowTBoy has destroyed us all with xe's overwhelming rhetorical nuclear blast.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:04 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Which is EXACTLY why spending 5 months on a RECOUNT was INCREDIBLY STUPID.
I have a stack of fifty counterfeit $100 bills which were passed off as a legit $5K in total. The bills were all counted and recounted by bipartisans with observers. It comes out to 50 $100 bills every time. Every count yields the same.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:06 am to xxTIMMYxx
quote:Ummmm, they spent 5 months recounting the ballots. And when they were done with that, they bought special machines to recount them again. What do you think they were doing in the rented out stadium with the matching shirts?
Recounts are not sufficient when looking for fraud, but you know this. This was never a recount. It was an audit for fraudulent ballots
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:07 am to mmcgrath
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Which is EXACTLY why spending 5 months on a RECOUNT was INCREDIBLY STUPID.
It's essential for the left to stick to the "audit = recount" stance. Nobody with a brain believes that.
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