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re: Are you smart? That's racist

Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Easy solution. Go back to DU.


No, someone has to at least burst the bubble this board lives in. Difficult work but work indeed.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:16 pm to
You think you are that person?

You people and your egos.

Let’s start here.

It’s a yes or no answer.

Does Joe Biden have dementia?

Oh and try to answer before you are banned since you admitted to being an alter.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:18 pm to
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You think you are that person?


I don't think I will be that person but someone has to at least try.

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Does Joe Biden have dementia?


No.

Now, my turn.

Does Donald Trump have dementia?

I'm fairly sure I'd be banned anyway. As another user has even pointed out, this board bans people who aren't conservative or heck, just not even as right-wing as the users here.

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:19 pm to
If you don’t believe Joe has dementia you are either a fool or a liar.

No use for you.

Until your banning, change some hearts and minds if you can.

Tell your DU buddies hello for us.

Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:20 pm to
You didn't answer my question.

How convenient. You ask but cannot answer.

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22978 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:21 pm to
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As another user has even pointed out, this board bans people who aren't conservative or heck, just not even as right-wing as the users here.



Not true in the slightest but whatever makes you feel good.
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Not true in the slightest but whatever makes you feel good.




Again, if it were just me saying it, I wouldn't. But multiple people have had the same experience - they get put in 'post quality review' and their account is never reviewed (which is an effective suspension).

But another user on here has said it and multiple people on reddit have said it as well. There's a reason why so many people create alters - it's not because people are hiding their previous comment history but people who don't match the narrative are usually banned.

You saying 'not true in the slightest' doesn't mean anything particularly when your history matches the narrative of most of the users here. If it makes you feel good, keep pretending that it's not true.

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112610 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:26 pm to
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When you accused me of not having a high ACT score? You said it in response to me saying that I was liberal.


No. You obviously having reading issues. I said you were stupid (therefore cannot have perfect ACT) because you claim liberals get banned on this site. They don't. Only left wing sites ban people for political stances.

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You went to high school like 50 years ago. Life was completely different 50 years ago. It's a bit disingenuous to compare the 1960s/70s/80s to today.


More reading problems. My point was that today colleges emphasize community service WAY more than they did 50 years ago. Back then they emphasized scholarship.

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You have to have won regional awards to get a 2 or above on the extracurricular ranking. To get a 2 or 1 on the academic ranking, you have to have test scores above 33 on the ACT or a really high GPA. If you don't get a 2 or above on those two, you don't get accepted.


David Hogg says you're wrong.

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Where does it say her ACT score? I can't find it.


You can't do a search for a kid's ACT score. I know it because my college classmate later became her guidance counselor and told me how ridiculous it was for someone that average to get accepted. Racial minority advantages at Ivy League schools started way back in the 1950s. Things haven't changed.



Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:27 pm to
I explained why.

You are a super smart radical leftist. I thought you understood.

Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:38 pm to
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No. You obviously having reading issues. I said you were stupid (therefore cannot have perfect ACT) because you claim liberals get banned on this site. They don't. Only left wing sites ban people for political stances.



This is a convenient narrative that you're spinning. Left-wing sites don't ban you for being right-wing: you can be right-wing as much as you want on Reddit and left-wing subreedits for example and you aren't banned. Right-wing subreddits ban people for being left-wing, it's not the other way around.

This site does ban liberals and I wouldn't call it left-wing - multiple people have noted that users are banned for their views. They get put into 'post quality review' and then their accounts are never reviewed.

Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't make it true.

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More reading problems. My point was that today colleges emphasize community service WAY more than they did 50 years ago. Back then they emphasized scholarship.


Are you dumb? You seem to be talking about things nobody else was talking about.

We're talking about the present day and college admissions today. You were trying to argue that TODAY, top colleges are left-wing because they emphasize community service and right-wingers don't do community service.

That's laughably not true. Everyone in high school does community service these days. Top colleges are left-wing because most college-educated people are left-wing. The higher your ACT score, the more likely you are to be left-wing which is why every top college has more left-wing people on campus than right-wing people on campus.

Harvard received 60,000 applications last year. They had 1600 spots. They can be as selective on scholarship and still keep high extracurricular standards.

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David Hogg says you're wrong.


David Hogg was famous. Everyone knows who he is. He has done an extracurricular activity that everyone knows about, which would give him a 1 on the extracurricular rating. As I said, for the thousand merit spots, you have to be academically exceptional. I know a few people who went to Harvard and they're academic superstars.

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You can't do a search for a kid's ACT score. I know it because my college classmate later became her guidance counselor and told me how ridiculous it was for someone that average to get accepted. Racial minority advantages at Ivy League schools started way back in the 1950s. Things haven't changed.



Nobody was arguing that racial minority advantages don't exist. They do. But you were arguing that the median scores of Black people at Harvard were 28 on the ACT. You attached no evidence to back your claim and are now trying to pretend that I was arguing something else.

Absolutely disingenuous. The median SAT score of a Black at Harvard was still 2100 - that's still a pretty fantastic score. You pointing out a woman who went to Radcliffe which was a completely different college in the 1980s has very little to do with current admission standards which is what we were talking about.

I think you might have reading problems. You've been arguing against points I wasn't making and you don't seem to understand the points you yourself are making.

PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO BACK YOUR CLAIM THAT THE MEDIAN SCORE OF BLACK STUDENTS AT HARVARD WAS 28. If you can't provide evidence i.e actual data, this conversation is pointless. I've done you the courtesy of providing you data and the onus is on you to do the same. You've provided anecdotes, not data.

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:43 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Left-wing sites don't ban you for being right-wing


Confirmed liar.
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:42 pm to
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Confirmed liar.


Uh, none that I'm aware of do.

Reddit doesn't ban people for being right-wing for example.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13635 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:43 pm to
Many of the students with lower grades are also on government assistance. If you want those kids to do better in school, tie the amount families receive to the grade of their kids.

That’s the only way their parents will give a crap about weather or not a kid does his homework or goes to school.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:45 pm to
I have no idea why you people must lie so much. It’s kinda weird.

Twitter
DU
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LinkedIn

I bet Reddit does it too. It’s just a shadow ban.

I don’t do Reddit but have read that they make it possible for you people to “ban” conservatives with the downvote feature.

Reddit it for freaks either way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:48 pm to
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as they discuss how to accommodate the educational aspirations of advanced learners while nurturing other students so they can equally thrive.

And there is your irrationality of the "argument"
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:52 pm to
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I have no idea why you people must lie so much. It’s kinda weird.



I'm making a point. I'm literally trying to show you that this is what you're doing to me.

I'm discounting your experiences like you're discounting mine. I'm telling you that multiple people including me have been banned on this forum for being liberal.

You're pretending that this isn't true. You people are lying when it's so obvious why people create alters.

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112610 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:52 pm to
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This site does ban liberals


Name them.

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We're talking about the present day and college admissions today. You were trying to argue that TODAY, top colleges are left-wing because they emphasize community service and right-wingers don't do community service.


Well, now you're reaching a level of dense that gets boring. Comparing today with 50 years ago = trend. And there is reason for trend. Colleges intentionally favor left wing thought. They did not 50 years ago.
I never said right wingers today don't do community service. I said there was NO emphasis on it when merit was the rule.

I'm getting really tired of repeating myself.

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David Hogg was famous


Dense. It disproved you point about requirements. Now you retreat to 'requirements don't matter if you're famous.' Boring.

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PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO BACK YOUR CLAIM THAT THE MEDIAN SCORE OF BLACK STUDENTS AT HARVARD WAS 28.


Circular. I already explained. Boring. Bye.
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Circular. I already explained. Boring. Bye.



No, you didn't.

Typical. When I ask you to provide evidence, you retreat to anecdata and then pretend you explained. This is getting boring - anecdotes is not evidence. I gave you statistical data - you do the same for me please.


Disingenuous.

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Name them.


Me? Another user on here said that this was his experience too in this very thread. Multiple people on Reddit.

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Well, now you're reaching a level of dense that gets boring. Comparing today with 50 years ago = trend. And there is reason for trend. Colleges intentionally favor left wing thought. They did not 50 years ago.


Colleges don't intentionally favor left-wing thought. It's that the people who apply and get in are left-wing. College-educated people are a left-leaning group. The higher your test scores, the more likely you are to be left-wing.

Top colleges have been left-wing for nearly a hundred years. From Vietnam protests to sit-ins over racial inequality, top colleges were a hot bed of political activity back in the 1960s. Your trend argument falls pretty flat on its face - it's not even a clear argument that you were making (you didn't even make the link in your original comment).

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Colleges intentionally favor left wing thought. They did not 50 years ago.


Top colleges were left-wing 50 years ago. I'm not sure why you're pretending they weren't. Harvard, Berkeley, Yale, Princeton etc. have always been left-wing.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself. There is no such trend. Top colleges have been left-wing for nearly a hundred years.

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Dense. It disproved you point about requirements. Now you retreat to 'requirements don't matter if you're famous.' Boring.



For most applicants, there are requirements. I even said in my original comment for the people who aren't famous, kids of famous people, athletes or legacies, there are strict requirements. For the 1000 merit-based seats, there are strict requirements. And even for the 1000 non-merit-based seats, most will have high test scores and grades.

And you pointing out one example doesn't mean anything. David Hogg was one applicant.

Why must you lie and pretend I didn't say otherwise?

So effectively, this is getting pointless. You refuse to provide statistical evidence of any of your claims - you instead retreat to anecdata and hearsay. And you even were disingenuous when you brought up someone who went to Radcliffe college.

Provide actual evidence or shut up. I'm guessing you can't so I suggest you shut up instead. It's disrespectful to keep using anecdotes and hearsay - use actual evidence like I did.

I provided you with data that showed that median test scores for all races was above 2100 on the SAT. You've not provided any evidence for your claims so I suggest you back down.

You don't seem to understand the points you're making. You've got no understanding of what you're saying - your points are disjointed and there's no clear coherence running through them.

You instead stick to repeating things that you say happened 50 years ago when we're talking about the present day. And even then, your argument doesn't make any sense - top colleges were left-wing 50 years ago. The trend has always been left-wing.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 3:05 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140729 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:28 pm to
I never discounted anything. You are barking up the wrong tree.
Posted by BasedTide
Member since Oct 2021
393 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 4:39 pm to
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I don't understand how honest, hard working black people aren't infuriated at the media's portrayal of them. The media is basically saying we shouldn't have gifted and talented programs because black kids are too stupid to get in.

Because they only care about THEIR people, and they'll support anything that benefits them regardless of whether it's fair to White people or not. They don't give a frick about White people.

White people need to adopt this exact same attitude, and start living in the real world.
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