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re: Are you ready for a black Superman?

Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Funny thing is that a lot of Morgan Freeman’s famous roles were written without regard to race of the character, like Red in Shawshank and Ned in Unforgiven.

Morgan won it due to quality of acting and they didn’t change the script as a result, meaning the odd bit in Shawshank where he says he’s called Red “maybe because I’m Irish”
Freeman is an amazing actor, but I think I disagree on Shawshank.

It has been decades since I read the King Novella, but I think I always envisioned the character as an AA, though I do not recall whether he (as narrator) ever mentioned his own race. That COULD just be the fact that Freeman was so good that the role transcended race, but “Red” was long a common nickname for lighter-skinned Blacks, and I even had a classmate with that nickname ... which MIGHT be why I had no trouble envisioning the character as AA.

I take the “Irish” comment in the film as sarcasm. by a Black man.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Stingray
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:43 pm to
They should make a black Superman for release in Africa, an Asian Superman for release in Asia, and a mixed race, gender ambiguous Supercuck for release in Europe and North America.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Considering there’s a play full of black Founding Fathers which is celebrated...



...and?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:43 pm to
Those 2 movies are both interesting outside of comic afciliation

WW for the mythology and WWI backdrops and Strange for the mystical aspects and tbe sci-fi fantasy tie in
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Are you ready for a black Superman?
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:48 pm to
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an Asian Superman

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and a mixed race


I'm not a big comic book guy but didn't Dean Cain play Superman?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:48 pm to
To be honest, I'm more pissed about a short Jack Reacher than I am a black Superman. I mean I'm down with Tom Cruise, great actor obviously, but whomever cast him to play the 6'5" Jack Reacher should be punted in the nads, repeatedly.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:48 pm to
Make a production with black versions of Alexander Hamilton and George Washington, amongst others, and everyone creams themselves.

Make a production of something where white people play characters who were historically black and you get people losing their shite.


Still lookin forward to a version of Othello where everyone is black but Othello himself is white.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Like An Avenging Angel Of The Ghetto He Strikes!
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:50 pm to
Read the description in the book and I believe Red refers to himself as “a skinny kid with a mop of red hair” within the first few pages when setting the stage for how he arrived at Shawshank.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:51 pm to
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Still lookin forward to a version of Othello where everyone is black but Othello himself is white.
Shakespeare companies do this sort of thing all the time. My all-time favorite production of Shrew was set in 1960s America.

Kate looking over the top of her Wayfarers with every sarcastic comment was pure gold.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:53 pm to
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Read the description in the book and I believe Red refers to himself as “a skinny kid with a mop of red hair” within the first few pages when setting the stage for how he arrived at Shawshank.
Could be. As I said, it has been decades. But my childhood classmate “Red” had reddish hair as well.

In any case, Morgan Freeman is an outstanding actor who transcends race.
Posted by dude960
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:54 pm to
Jor-el gotta be pissed at Lara
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:54 pm to
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everyone


Your use of everyone is interesting.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:54 pm to
Red was white in the novella but it wasnt integral to the character's identity.

Sidenote, when King wrote black characters back in the day it was pretty noticable. Unfortunately he had a penchant for some ummm...stereotypical behavior. Susannah is Dark Tower literally had a blacksploitation film alter ego

If Red was black he would have talked like Stephen in Django. King is one of my favorites but just sayin
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Jor-el gotta be pissed at Lara


Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:58 pm to
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AggieHank86


Real talk, is there ANY issue on this board in which you aren't fighting with the minority ? Any topic in which you are just like "yeah okay, that shite is stupid?" IOW do you really hold all the absurd positions, or do you just enjoy the argument?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:58 pm to
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short Jack Reacher
Good point

I read most of the early Reacher books, but probably won't see the movie

I see all the super hero and Lego movies though...

I think (hope) my boy is about to outgrow Lego so
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Real talk, is there ANY issue on this board in which you aren't fighting with the minority ? Any topic in which you are just like "yeah okay, that shite is stupid?" IOW do you really hold all the absurd positions, or do you just enjoy the argument?


People make the same comments to me sometimes, so I'll jump in. You'll notice that I don't post in every topic. That's likely because I agree with the consensus. It's not fun to jump into a thread and collect a pat on the back. The exception to that is anything Second Amendment related for me.

Now, a thread where I actually hold an opposing view can be fun. Of course, sometimes I'm just pointing out widespread hypocrisy for the hell of it, and I'm a huge a-hole when I do that.

And I think Hank is probably going to be along those lines, although he's not as much of a dickhead as I am and he cares a lot more than I do (which is very little) about getting his points across.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:02 pm to
He could be purple n gold and I still wouldn’t care.
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