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re: Are we are headed fast towards the tribulations

Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26949 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:54 am to
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If God is real, he doesn’t really seem to give a damn about us.


If God isn't real you're nothing but an advanced ape, so why should anybody give a damn about you?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17873 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:55 am to
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There is no doubt that if this were to take place Christians would be persecuted like never before in recent history.


Do you think the 1.2 billion Catholics are just going to sit around and let themselves be persecuted? That may have flown in the ancient times when only one side was armed. Ill tell you this now, if this is their plan they better iron up.

If anything I'm concerned the other direction. What happens when enough is enough and we take fricking condom off an really start laying the hammer.

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3416 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:55 am to
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Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels were cast out of heaven for their attempting to support and presumably elevate Lucifer equal to or above God. Yet Satan, Lucifer, comes into the presence of God at least three times in the old testament and God entertains him. Twice in Job when God give him permission to test Job


“Satan” was a job title of an angel in ancient Hebrew mythology. If you look at the Hebrew words it is rendered “ha satan” or “the adversary”. It didn’t mean refer to any specific single divine being who embodied evil… that didn’t come until after Persian Zoroastrianism became an inflicting factor on their religion. Ahriman ha Satan was the Zoroastrianism evil deity that the Zadokite priests adopted as the entity that evil comes from. Then the satans of older scriptures came to be understood as “Satan” a very specific deity. Before the adoption of the Persian Satan character, evil came from Yahweh himself (Isaiah 45:7). In Samuel, “an evil spirit from the LORD” afflicts king Saul, for example.

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The verse meant the sons of God being the line of Seth mixed with and had offspring with the daughters


Wrong. It was angels of God (Septuagint) and sons of God (Masoretic, DSS). Means the same thing. Divine beings subordinate to god (or gods) came down from heaven and had sex with the daughters of men. The entire set of details is laid out in a book we call 1 Enoch, that the pre-Christian Jews of Qumran preserved (also preserved in Ethiopic Christians of the present time and considered scripture by them).
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62543 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:56 am to
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If God isn't real you're nothing but an advanced ape


What's wrong with being an advanced ape?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:57 am to
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When are you people gonna realize that you have the same paranoia as people who do meth? Just relax lol.

when are those who discriminate against whom they refer to as some OTHER: ie 'you people'

going to realize that their self-aggrandizing is a result of habitual misestimation of those OTHERs
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297670 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:58 am to
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If God isn't real you're nothing but an advanced ape, so why should anybody give a damn about you?


Yep, if god aint real, the law of the jungle is paramount.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26949 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:58 am to
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What's wrong with being an advanced ape?



Nothing, but I don't assign much value to them. My dog killed a possum the other day; should we have the same coverage for the possum that we do for Rosalyn Carter? Or for the anthill I poisoned?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35628 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:00 am to
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Those 7 years of tribulations might begin when radical islam gaining a majority controlling interest in all western nations.

I think it'll be whenever a particular ideology takes hold in both the western world and Asia, and I don't think we're there yet.

The end times are near, but quite a bit more prophecy must come to pass before we're there, including significant events in Jerusalem.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62543 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:05 am to
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quite a bit more prophecy must come to pass before we're there,


Why, and what is that prophecy?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297670 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:06 am to
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What's wrong with being an advanced ape?



Nothing, as long as you are the strongest ape.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10725 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:09 am to
Another supposed non-believer who posts on every Christian thread anybody starts.

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“Jesus” also “said” to his followers that many of them will still be alive when he returned and would not taste death.


Jesus was clearly referring to Daniel 7:13–14 when he said that. He was not referring to His return, but His death/resurrection and "coming into His kingdom" during His first incarnation. Even if you refuse to acknowledge that as the correct interpretation, you're simply being disingenuous (imagine that) to refuse to acknowledge it as being just as valid as the interpretation that you are biased towards.

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Paul mentioned “we who are still alive” at the coming of the Lord will rise in the air to meet the LORD in the heavens.


Here's the full context of what Paul said:

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13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death,c so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.


Clearly he was not referring to people standing around in the present moment when he said "we who are alive."

For someone who acts like he has an airtight case all the time, you sure do manipulate and spin.

Makes you wonder how much disbelief you actually have as opposed to hate.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16828 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:09 am to
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Have you seen how much of the younger generation is willing to side with Islam in America and throughout the world?


I know many people who side with Palestine and what they perceive to be an on going genocide. They're not siding with Islam. They're siding with the Palestenian people. These 2 things are not mutually exclusive.

I don't have that take - so please don't misinterpret my words. But that's what I'm seeing. There are roughly 3.5M Mulislims in the U.S - There are over 220M Christians. They would be erased very quickly in both American continents if they tried to attack Christians and our way of life. They don't have anywhere close to the presence here or in South America that they have in Europe.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 9:19 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297670 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:12 am to
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I know many people who side with Palestine and what they perceive to be an on going genocide


Really dumb people.

All the wars going on in the world and they side with the group that straps bombs on children and women.

Probably 10x more have been killed in Ukraine, and South Sudan.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10725 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:12 am to
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If God is real, he doesn’t really seem to give a damn about us.


If the Christian God is real, He incarnated and allowed himself to be tortured and killed for us.

So, that's kind of a stupid thing to say.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62543 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:14 am to
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Another supposed non-believer who posts on every Christian thread anybody starts.


Why does this bother you so much? And squirrelmeister adds quite a bit of value historical knowledge to these types of threads.

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you sure do manipulate and spin.


You and Revelator and others certainly don't do that, do you?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62016 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:24 am to
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You and Revelator


You really seem to have a personal animus against me, without knowing me in person. It’s kind of weird.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:26 am to
I’m not a practicing Christian, but it’s really sad when the libs in this country embrace Islam, a religion that treats women like second class citizens and, in the case of Palestine, makes being gay a felony… and at the same time they think Baptists in the south are a threat to civilization simply because they don’t want their 7 year olds reading about fellatio. Clown world.

That being said, pump the brakes. In the US we’re much more tolerant of Islam BS, but Europe ain’t having any of that shite on a large scale. Look what Sweden did a few years back about Muslims. Most countries in Europe even make it very difficult to extend refugee status beyond 2 years. The rest of the world does not kiss brown asses like we do. Connor MacGregor isn’t on an island with what he said, make no mistake about that.

Here’s something else that you won’t read but I’ve learned after spending considerable amounts of time in Europe. Many of the voters don’t even like LEGAL immigrants, but they HATE illegals, for the most part. Ironically, Germany is the most immigrant friendly place in Western/Northern Europe. We in the US have brainwashed ourselves into thinking we’re a perpetual melting pot simply since we started that way, but with the whole “my culture isn’t your culture stop appropriating, evil white man” vibe we’ve created, we’ve really just become more of a salad with some really shitty ingredients that mess it up for everyone else.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26949 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:26 am to
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So, that's kind of a stupid thing to say.


Apparently he lost interest in whatever point he was trying to make.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62543 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:27 am to
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You really seem to have a personal animus against me, without knowing me in person. It’s kind of weird.


Eh, not really, and I don't mean it to come off that way. I do find some of your beliefs to be silly and bigoted at times, but I'm sure you feel the same way about me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297670 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 9:27 am to
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You and Revelator


You really seem to have a personal animus against me


He really dislikes Christians.
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