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re: Are we are headed fast towards the tribulations
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:06 am to Snipe
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:06 am to Snipe
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They're actually pretty terrifying and in no way human or having human characteristics.
First, there are various types of angels described in the Bible. Second, we already know that angels can take bodily form, like when they ate with Abraham, appeared in Sodom and also wrestled with Jacob.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 8:11 am
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:07 am to Honest Tune
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Which poster is that?
Gynopedia or whatever that alter posts as.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:09 am to Honest Tune
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Which poster is that?
I'd put big money on SammyTiger.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:10 am to cssamerican
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This is new an interpretation, everyone in history took it as angels, including during the time of Jesus. You can look at popular books during that time such as the Book of Enoch or the Book of the Giants, or Book of Jubilees and they all interpreted it as some type of angel. Even the Palestinian Targum which was written in the 3rd century indicates the same.
Plus, in the 2 verses describing these angels who sinned and are chained ( 2 Peter and Jude) the verses right after both refer to the sin of Sodom which was sexual in nature. In fact, in the case of Sodom, we have a reverse situation of Genesis 6, where humans were trying to have sex with angels!
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 8:12 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:12 am to Mo Jeaux
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We are spirits in the material world." 99% of us live the reverse. Weve fallen in the same trap.
The spiritual realm is more real than ours. But since we can’t see or understand it, we ignore it, or try to explain it away in humanly terms.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:27 am to Revelator
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Genesis 6 and the Nephilim. Some scholars believe that one of the main reasons God sent the flood was because of the grievous sin committed by the angels.
It doesn’t take a scholar to figure that out. Just read the book of 1 Enoch, which the Essenes of Qumran kept more copies of than any other book. Read it and you will learn why the second temple priests did not consider it scripture and how it fits into pre-Christian Enochian Jewish religion.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:27 am to Squirrelmeister
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It doesn’t take a scholar to figure that out. Just read the book of 1 Enoch,
I have
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:31 am to cssamerican
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The wrath you’re referring to is likely judgment. When you read the verses, it doesn’t appear that believers get to miss out on tribulation as it doesn’t seem like they are taken up until the last trumpet sounds.
I have always believed in the pre-trib rapture since I’ve been born again. A
Few years ago, I started leaning to a more mid-trib position.
Just recently, I’ve heard very good arguments for post trib rapture. The best advice is to the stay ready and keep the faith regardless.
Many Christians throughout history have suffered or have been martyred for their faith, so it isn’t without precedence that we could also have to suffer for ours.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:37 am to Revelator
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If you really want a new perspective on the Bible and the spiritual elements, look up Michael S. Heiser on YouTube and watch some of his videos dealing with his book, the Unseen Realm.
Finally something on which I agree with you.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:42 am to Snipe
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Those 7 years of tribulations might begin when radical islam gaining a majority controlling interest in all western nations.
How close are we? Depends on if you believe the liberal western voices marching in support of islamic Jihadis are the majority or the minority outliers under a MSM microscope.
Islam makes up 3%~ of the U.S population. It would have to be dramatic actions on their part, but if push came to shove we would crush them immediately.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:44 am to Snipe
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Those 7 years of tribulations might begin when radical islam gaining a majority controlling interest in all western nations.
What do you mean by this?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:45 am to Revelator
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the sin of Sodom which was sexual in nature.
No it wasn't. Not according to Ezekiel 16:49
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:47 am to Azkiger
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You would if those retards made up a massive portion of the American population and were trying to run public policy off a book they believe Bigfoot left behind.
I guess I would. But since exactly no "massive portion" of the American public is trying to set public policy based on either one, I'm not concerned about either one.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:47 am to TRUERockyTop
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Islam makes up 3%~ of the U.S population. It would have to be dramatic actions on their part, but if push came to shove we would crush them immediately.
Have you seen how much of the younger generation is willing to side with Islam in America and throughout the world?
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:47 am to Snipe
No it’s all fairy tale nonsense.
If God is real, he doesn’t really seem to give a damn about us.
If God is real, he doesn’t really seem to give a damn about us.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:47 am to Revelator
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The spiritual realm is more real than ours.
Our realm is phony, just a bunch of plastic trinkets and food/drink to pass time.
Media, entertainment, politics are all distractions and destroy our values.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:50 am to wackatimesthree
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No it wasn't.
Jude 7:1 jj ust as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The spiritual realm is more real than ours.
Our realm is phony,
I never took you and Revelator as Gnostics.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:53 am to Mo Jeaux
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I never took you and Revelator as Gnostics.
Ive been reading gnostic material for years. Gnostic, Buddhist.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 8:55 am
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