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re: Are there any standards anymore when it comes to music and pop culture?

Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:17 pm to
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Kids growing up today will be complaining about the same issue in 30 years.
Yes, but each generation is correct when they complain because the envelope keeps getting pushed over time. It's never reigned in.

So each generation that complains really does have a point when comparing to their own teenage years.


Probably. Look at bathing suits 100 years ago. It's natural
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:21 pm to
Just so you know, Ace thinks Empire is the best of the Star Wars movies, so obviously, his taste is completely warped.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:21 pm to
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Well, yeah, the stuff that has already been made back when "entertainers" had this thing called "talent".

Do you even Kendrick Lamar bro?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95660 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Empire is the best of the Star Wars movies


Thanks, UL - it's nice when someone agrees with me.

(Although this is a laughably easy one - Star Wars is a great movie and a sentimental favorite in its own right. Jedi - even with Wookies instead of Ewoks, would have been hard pressed to top Empire. Heck, Empire is one of the best movies of all time, regardless of genre - and probably 3rd in SciFi after The Wrath of Khan and 2001)

A lot of people rank the star wars movies:

Empire

Star Wars (A New Hope)



Jedi


Deal with it.

Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
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And last I checked my brain hasn't started rotting yet.



Ok then. Good. I don't mind being proven wrong.

I just hope all the kids on the subway blaring this song on their Beats this evening can say the same.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:29 pm to
Yea with that being said I would NEVER allow my children to listen to this trash
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:33 pm to
The AFI and most people agree with me. Deal with it.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:33 pm to
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Yea with that being said I would NEVER allow my children to listen to this trash



I was actually making my comments with kids in mind for the most part. We might be on the same page more than I initially led us to believe.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:36 pm to


Yea I can indulge bc I'm an adult. Likewise with a nice cold beer. If my (future) kids tried listening to this? Oh my....
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:03 pm to
Rappers talk and cant play a lick of music.


Anyone that listens to it has always got a look by me that says " you are a tasteless, tacky, stupid dumbazz."
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:19 pm to
Supreme court ruling that gave more freemdom to Hollywood then individuals, simple as that!
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28022 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:21 pm to
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I understand what you're saying but a broadcast corporation has every right to promote what they chose to promote. Viewers have the right to never view that program again.

This isn't about the right to do something. We all know they have the right to do it.

This is about the social and cultural aspect of why trashy songs like that are acceptable to be promoted by a mainstream talk show.

And it really feels weird how Jimmy Fallon was talking about what a great person she is, then she raps her song about shooting people in the head and killing their families, and then the song finishes and Jimmy Fallon shakes her hand and is like wooo nice job!

I'm wondering why it is acceptable from a cultural point of view.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Just so you know, Ace thinks Empire is the best of the Star Wars movies, so obviously, his taste is completely warped.


Empire is the best.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
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Ace thinks Empire is the best of the Star Wars movies


Most people do
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Of course they are free to. I'm asking where are we at as a society where a song like that is socially acceptable for mainstream television.
Mainstream tv is not LATE NIGHT PROGRAMMING.

I don't watch Fallon, or any of the late night talk shows, but when I did those shows came on when most people aren't watching tv. And, I'm guessing that Fallon has his musical guests on last, so that even further diminishes the audience.

PTM thru the decades

When did it become socially acceptable to play that colored music on the radio.
When did it become acceptable for someone to gyrate their hips on television.
When did it become acceptable to talk about getting much higher, open references to drugs is acceptable?
When did it get acceptable for men to dress as women on television.
When did it get socially acceptable for satanists to be on television.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:00 pm to
No, they fricking don't. You punks can form whatever coalitions you like. Reality intervenes.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:44 pm to
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Yea I can indulge bc I'm an adult. Likewise with a nice cold beer. If my (future) kids tried listening to this? Oh my....



Have you found that Down syndrome gene you have been researching at Med School yet?


Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31405 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:12 pm to
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Sony. Why?

I was wondering if it was NBC. "The Today Show" is pretty much one long commercial for NBC and all of it's subsidiaries.
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