re: Are public school uniforms unconstitutional?

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Are public school uniforms unconstitutional?

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Public school uniforms in general have not been deemed unconstitutional by the courts (Blau v Ft. Thomas Public School District).

However, students' right to free expression has been upheld provided the expression makes an obvious social commentary. Students do not have to be wearing regular dress in order to make such a statement--as with the arm bands debated in the landmark Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District.

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When kids start wearing high priced shoes,clothes,etc., it tends to form cliques within school boundaries. I won't even mention gang related colors that also divide kids.

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This will happen in real life out of school. I think it is harmful to shelter kids from reality in school..coming into the real world full of ignorance is not a good thing

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As an aside, the two most successful men I have ever met wore rags to school and dropped out at 16. To this day you couldn't pick them out of a crowd at a cattle auction.

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I know many people like this who make 6 figures a year, some even in the high 7 figures.

People perform better when they are allowed to be in their comfort zone..and with many people dressing in what they are comfortable with has a large affect on their attitude. Some people love the "suit and tie" because it inflates their sense of self worth. Some like the "relaxed" feeling and seek work where they can wear whatever they are comfortable with. I feel this environment should be available to kids in school..if a boy wants to wear a t shirt and gym shorts, then fine. If one wants to look nice because it makes him feel confident, then fine. It will have an overall positive affect on their attitudes, and school performance.

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People perform better when they are allowed to be in their comfort zone..and with many people dressing in what they are comfortable with has a large affect on their attitude.

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Let's try it in the army, too. They have comfort zones. Maybe they'll perform better. They should be allowed express themselves.

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Could it be deemed unconstitutional for a public school, which is a entity of the state, to force kids to wear certain clothes that they may not like wearing?

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Could it be deemed that forcing kids to attend school is unconstitutional? Maybe if they wanted to attend school, they would hate it less...

It's always fun to discuss the fact there's no constitutional right to education, and illegal immigrants aren't entitled to the rights of citizens...yet illegal immigrants have a constitutional right to education.

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I know many people like this who make 6 figures a year, some even in the high 7 figures.

People perform better when they are allowed to be in their comfort zone..and with many people dressing in what they are comfortable with has a large affect on their attitude. Some people love the "suit and tie" because it inflates their sense of self worth. Some like the "relaxed" feeling and seek work where they can wear whatever they are comfortable with. I feel this environment should be available to kids in school..if a boy wants to wear a t shirt and gym shorts, then fine. If one wants to look nice because it makes him feel confident, then fine. It will have an overall positive affect on their attitudes, and school performance.

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I agree. There are so many paths to success. The sooner people start correlating success with behavior and stop directly correlating it with dress standards (which are extremely diverse to begin with), the better off they will be. One of the guys I was talking about in my earlier post has dedicated a substantial portion of his wealth in order to teach younger people what successful behavior "looks" like.

No offense to professional educators, because I had several that I greatly admire, but having a HS teacher at a public school tell teenagers and children that a dress code correlates to success seems a bit odd to me. I know as a youngin I would (and did ) have responded to that idea very poorly.

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The sooner people start correlating success with behavior and stop directly correlating it with dress standards (which are extremely diverse to begin with), the better off they will be. One of the guys I was talking about in my earlier post has dedicated a substantial portion of his wealth in order to teach younger people what successful behavior "looks" like.

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This is some SF "operator" garbage right here. It wreaks of zero discipline and poor leadership IMO.

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It's always fun to discuss the fact there's no constitutional right to education, and illegal immigrants aren't entitled to the rights of citizens...yet illegal immigrants have a constitutional right to education

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boom.

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necessary and proper clause

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Problem?

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Got my last field op(hopefully) with the Corps this weekend

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Enjoy it, relish it. Your last night tripping over the slit trench in shitty cold weather gear checking on your dipshit privates MG position before you hit the Air Force will be one you never forget.