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Apparently the shutdown has the Trump admin running like a well oiled machine.

Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:00 pm
The bureaucratic resistance factions are out of the way. The Trump admin is running better with 15% staff minus the dead weight and resistance factions that gum up the works. Administration officials can go directly to department heads that are more loyal to Trump and they can execute Trump admin initiatives more efficiently without the ball and chain of "process" and resistance.

That brings me to the next issue.

Apparently if these furloughed workers remain furloughed more than 30 days that triggers a law that allows department heads to eliminate those positions without going though the arduous process to fire someone (which is practically impossible).

But I learned that this law only applies to "administrative" furloughs and not government shutdown furloughs. I did not know there was a difference. This is a subject that was probably taught in advanced civics which I did not take...

With that said, if the distinction is not that clear these department heads should put these resistance faction positions on the chopping block. Even if they win in court, the court and legal process may take several months to years and by that time the resistance factions are gone or mostly gone.

Can someone knowledgeable about eliminating federal government positions that are furloughed please comment on this strategy to drain the swamp.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:07 pm to
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Administration officials can go directly to department heads that are more loyal to Trump and they can execute Trump admin initiatives more efficiently without the ball and chain of "process" and resistance.


So what initiatives are they executing?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:11 pm to
Well, while you guys were shitting the floor Trump signed legislation empowering woman entrepreneurs everywhere to have better access to opportunities to help them be successful.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90617 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
Imagine that. The #resist leftists are the ones who hold the non essential jobs
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:40 pm to
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This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the president’s agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.

Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up — a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily.


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But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes


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Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:42 pm to
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With that said, if the distinction is not that clear these department heads should put these resistance faction positions on the chopping block. Even if they win in court, the court and legal process may take several months to years and by that time the resistance factions are gone or mostly gone.


do it anyway.
just do it and force them to go to court and fight it using all their treasure.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:44 pm to
Whatever they are you'll be there to #resist.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17480 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:47 pm to
If SES is the problem, I believe department heads can eliminate an SES at will. I don't think the typical CS protections apply to them.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:50 pm to
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they can execute Trump admin initiatives more efficiently without the ball and chain of "process"

they can? are they? what initiatives have been getting done all of a sudden?
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9641 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:55 pm to
They will never get paid!!! Reeeeeeeeee!
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:59 pm to
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If SES is the problem, I believe department heads can eliminate an SES at will. I don't think the typical CS protections apply to them.


This ends tomorrow. Trump will divert DoD funds to build the wall, declare the emergency and re-open the Government.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73654 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:02 pm to
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This ends tomorrow. Trump will divert DoD funds to build the wall, declare the emergency and re-open the Government.


Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79681 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:03 pm to
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This ends tomorrow. Trump will divert DoD funds to build the wall, declare the emergency and re-open the Government.


Well, you hope so, anyway.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:05 pm to
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quote:

This ends tomorrow. Trump will divert DoD funds to build the wall, declare the emergency and re-open the Government.






That will be one big middle finger to the DoD, but hey if it opens the gov't back up, then so be it.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Well, you hope so, anyway.


Let's just say it's more than an "educated guess"
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73444 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Let's just say it's more than an "educated guess"

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Let's just say it's more than an "educated guess"


Oooohhhh. Insider info?!? Your history certainly gives you credibility.

Guess we will see tomorrow if you are connected or just another kickadawg.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78081 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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That will be one big middle finger to the DoD, but hey if it opens the gov't back up, then so be it.


have you EVER been right about a single thing you've posted on here...EVER?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Making people work for free:


The alternative is firing them. You prefer that? And nobody can force them to work.
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