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re: AP: “guacamole & alcohol more important than fentanyl crisis & criminals crossing border”

Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:36 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:36 am to
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Most "illegals" come here on a visa, not by swimming the rio grand.

Your refugees are not illegals, they have protected status. Its the refugees you need to get rid of first.



Roger in here acting like Dems haven't perverted refugee status the past 4 years and just let everyone in even if they did not qualify for asylum and skipped other countries on their way here which you aren't supposed to do if you are seeking asylum.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:37 am to
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Roger in here acting like Dems haven't perverted refugee status the past 4 years


For such a "successful" guy you sure whine about uneducated Mexicans fricking up your life.

You seem very insecure.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:39 am to
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40 years and over a trillion dollars spent to win the war in drugs.


These people absolutely do not understand cause/effect.

Anyone who still thinks the war on drugs is winnable needs to have their voting rights stripped, along with the Ukraine bros.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:39 am to
They don't see that putting tariffs on Mexican and Canadian goods is screwing ourselves. It's not like slapping a tariff on Chinese made plastic knick knacks, etc. . We rely on Canada and Mexico for oil. Mexico for produce ( forget the alcohol) as well as seasonal labor moving back and forth across the border to help pick the food.

I wonder if they realize that even with the preferred trading arrangement with both, US manufacturing has increased by 40% over the last 30 years. We've been producing auto parts and finished autos out of Ontario for 70 years. Half of the upper Midwest and Mid Atlantic as well as NewEngland's power grid starts in Canada. North America has a fully integrated economy where EVERYONE wins
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182577 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:40 am to
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Roger is mad cause he will have less of his govy stimmy to spend on extra whip Fraps



Roger is mad because he is in 60s and will have to keep his hourly job until the day he dies. He has no way to ever retire and it pisses him off.

Even a slight increase in his grocery bill has a big impact on him so he would rather us keep the current ways as long as he doesn't have to spend $1 more at the Dollar General.

Very selfish of him.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98290 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:41 am to
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Very selfish of him


Exactly. He keeps proving thats hes a dem with each post in this thread
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:42 am to
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They don't see that putting tariffs on Mexican and Canadian goods is screwing ourselves. It's not like slapping a tariff on Chinese made plastic knick knacks, etc. . We rely on Canada and Mexico for oil. Mexico for produce ( forget the alcohol) as well as seasonal labor moving back and forth across the border to help pick the food.


No they do not. They dont have any formal education and believe retarded influencers.

Hurting Mexican trade will mean more mexicans in the USA. This is what they dont have the capacity to understand. These people move back and forth, and most dont swim the rio grand but come on Visas and overstay.

quote:

I wonder if they realize that even with the preferred trading arrangement with both, US manufacturing has increased by 40% over the last 30 years.


Exactly. Even with unbalanced trade, its still a massive benefit for Americans, particularly small business.

MAGA does not understand conservative economics. They only understand central planning.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:48 am to
The legal stuff like Oxycontin , etc replaced heroin for a while until drug dealers saw that there was an ever increasing market for opiates that Perdue alone could not meet.....enter the Colombians and Peruvian along with Afghans and Thai/ Burmese types.

Then there was plenty enough to go around....and apparently cheap too
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:53 am to
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Exactly. He keeps proving thats hes a dem


Explain in detail "conservative economics"

Then explain "Liberal economics"

Then explain "progressive economics."

Lets see if you understand anything youre talking about.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19376 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:21 am to
That’s about as clueless as can be. Worrying about shortages of specific products over worrying about lives lost to crime and drugs coming in from Mexico. And it’s sad that somewhere you have a responsibility for others
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:24 am to
Shoot yourself in the foot regularly?
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:26 am to
Here goes the media, trying to get people emotional, so that they'll bitch without actually thinking logically.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:32 am to
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s over worrying about lives lost to crime and drugs coming in from Mexico.


Tariffs will get you more Mexicans coming here to work.

When their homegrown industry is hurt, they will just come here like they usually do, then overstay their visa.

Trumps plans will result in more Mexicans seeking work here, this isnt opinion.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 11:35 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:43 am to
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Replaced by Oxy


This made it from doctors offices to the streets. That’s big pharma, not street level pharmacy (originally). In short, Oxy doesn’t work for your post.

quote:

fentanyl


potentially makes sense, but wasn’t it introduced via heroin?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:45 am to
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That’s big pharma, not street level pharmacy (originally).


Just shows you that many Doctors are no better than street dealers. They made a fortune off of it.

Now you cant get pain meds, and people are having to turn to the street.



In a 100 Billion dollar industry, youre going to find suppliers and new designer drugs constantly entering the market.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:45 am to
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It will just come from elsewhere. The issue is the demand on the American side.

Americans love drugs.


That's not the fricking issue of this thread is it?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:47 am to
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That's not the fricking issue of this thread is it?


Did you read the OP?

Look slightly above my typing, you'll see that the OP was absolutely talking about drugs.

If you cant read, let me know and I'll try to explain another way.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44325 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:55 am to
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Just shows you that many Doctors are no better than street dealers. They made a fortune off of it. Now you cant get pain meds, and people are having to turn to the street.


While true, the illegal drug trade didn’t create Oxy.

In short, the replacement for heroin was not from the streets.

As for fentanyl, the question remains…if heroin wasn’t on the streets, would fentanyl be there now?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:59 am to
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While true, the illegal drug trade didn’t create Oxy.


Doesnt matter who created it.

The market will always outsmart regulators and there will always be a supply, albeit more dangerous than the drugs we try to stop.

Suppliers are not going anywhere, they'll just put on another hat and raise another flag.
Posted by TigerWoodlands
The Woodlands
Member since Dec 2008
1208 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Other ppl clapped and my 8 yr old daughter clapped back saying "I'm proud that my daddy cares more about women not getting raped in this country by illegal aliens than the price of Mexican avocados, most of which we already grow here in California. I know you're just a barista but that should not stop you from getting informed about the realities of our situation and not what you're brainwashed into believing from the community college you attend."

While I applaud the message, no 8 year old ever said this…
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