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re: Anyone remember Rex Tillerson? You know, Trump’s first Secretary of State?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:40 pm to LuckyTiger
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:40 pm to LuckyTiger
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He wasn’t there long and didn’t do much of anything noteworthy. You can’t say he was good or bad. He was just sort of…nothing.
So it's also possible to say that Trump erratically fired him and we'll never know the real answer. Which as you've already admitted we can't really say he was bad.
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I do remember reading reports that he could not forge relationships with diplomats, was unrelatable, and lacked people skills. There was criticism that he was a CEO, not a SoS, and the two are not similar. WaPo type stuff, which is probably agenda driven hogwash.
Schultz was a great SoS and he was CEO of Bechtel. Of course, he also had much broader experience than Tillerson so it’s not really fair at all to compare the two other than to contrast.
Seems reasonable enough
But no one is a SoS until they're an SoS so yeah...definitely sounds like some WaPo garbage.
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:40 pm to DavidTheGnome
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What was his foreign policy and what were the results? Are we better off with China for instance after Trumps term than before?
The yuan didn’t crash for no reason on election night when it looked like Trump was winning big before they stopped the clock.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:41 pm to NC_Tigah
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His lack of success in the role speaks for itself.
But no one can really pinpoint where he failed other than Trump fired him...which essentially amounts to nothing of substance really.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:42 pm to The Boat
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The yuan didn’t crash for no reason on election night when it looked like Trump was winning big before they stopped the clock.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:49 pm to Powerman
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But no one can really pinpoint where he failed other than Trump fired him...
Trump laid out his foreign policy goals. Tillerson disagreed with some of them. Tillerson attempted to circumvent those he disagreed with. He undermined POTUS authority and got fired for it.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:09 am to reddy tiger
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By contrast, Biden has had very little turnover. Just chugs along delivering for America.
What exactly is he delivering...for America, that is?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:10 am to NC_Tigah
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Trump laid out his foreign policy goals. Tillerson disagreed with some of them. Tillerson attempted to circumvent those he disagreed with. He undermined POTUS authority and got fired for it.
Doesn't sound very specific
In fact it sounds sort of made up
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:18 am to Powerman
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In fact it sounds sort of made up
Kind of like what Tillerson is saying. Sounds made up.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:22 am to wareaglepete
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Kind of like what Tillerson is saying. Sounds made up.
Right... except everyone else who used to work for him that has similar criticisms
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:40 am to Powerman
Seems pretty simple to me. Some of the appointees succumbed to the passive aggressive pressure and potential threats of consequences down the road. You could tell when that was the situation and when the individual “gave in” because the relationship between the President and the person would noticeably cool down, sometimes to the point of outright strife or discord. That’s what you’d have to notice because it’s not like Trump could, would or should publicly announce the situation or anything like that, they’d just have to let it play out until the replacement process would be appropriate in time and such.
Probably some people can’t or won’t fully grasp the level of obstruction that Trump encountered. And no, most everyone weren’t aware of the measures they’d be willing to go to in order to derail him, which was basically an anything goes, no holds barred scenario.
Probably some people can’t or won’t fully grasp the level of obstruction that Trump encountered. And no, most everyone weren’t aware of the measures they’d be willing to go to in order to derail him, which was basically an anything goes, no holds barred scenario.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:56 am to Powerman
quote:Oh my.
Doesn't sound very specific
In fact it sounds sort of made up
What was your impression as to why Tillerson was fired?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:35 am to NC_Tigah
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This is the man some of you want back in the White House?
Of course we do. Chaos is better than competence - competence and men thinking they are smart got us in the mess of the world.
I want a guy that has good instincts informed or not.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 2:36 am
Posted on 9/1/23 at 3:44 am to jbdawgs03
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Who is your preferred candidate?
It's likely Stalin or Mao.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:40 am to CollegeFBRules
These people will get the sandy vagina but that description of him behind closed doors is very consistent of my impression of him in public. Dude seems like he is all over the place.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:53 am to baybeefeetz
I hope no one gets the sandy virginia over your impression of him, in public or anywhere. Unless there’s something I’m missing about your impressions being of some special significance?
All due respect.
All due respect.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:55 am to CollegeFBRules
Most peaceful presidency who followed a guy that had 0 foreign policy and this is what you want to go with?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:03 am to davyjones
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Turned out not so great as a hire for the owner of the Browns all those years ago
Modell screwed Bill over by announcing mid-season the team was moving to Baltimore.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:10 am to Bass Tiger
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Bannon and Navarro have said repeatedly that Tillerson was in over his head and was a US Chamber of Commerce Globalist lackey.
Why did trump hire a guy who was in over his head and was a US Chamber of Commerce Globalist lackey? Why wouldn’t he do that again?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:38 am to Bass Tiger
Bannon is a Goldman Sachs alumni who makes a living stirring crap to keep the cult fired up. Navarro is a failed democrat having lost his campaigns for mayor of San Diego four times and a minor academic seeking attention.
Neither have the accomplishments or intellectual capacity of Tillerson.
Neither have the accomplishments or intellectual capacity of Tillerson.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:03 am to CollegeFBRules
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Apparently I’m currently the biggest commie moron idiot this board has ever seen.
That’s unfortunately what this board has turned into. If you prefer a Republican not named Donald Trump (who is 77 freaking years old) to be the nominee, you’re a communist and a groomer.
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