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re: Anyone noticed how Libs accuse Ben Shapiro of making strawman arguments?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:50 am to _Hurricane_
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:50 am to _Hurricane_
Shapiro is a neocon grifter.
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:56 am to GeauxGoose
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I listen mostly to bongino because he is fact driven
Maybe, but he barked a lot of facts that went nowhere too.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:58 am to _Hurricane_
Agreed that he is a good gateway for moderate people on the left who don't really follow politics and just get whatever the mainstream narratives are. I know a few people including my wife who thought he was a far right extremist until they actually heard him speak. At the bare minimum, hearing it from the horses mouth really exposes how biased the MSM is for the naive. Those people are a lot more common than the SJW types than some might think.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:02 am to Cuz413
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A little trip down memory lane, Shapiro vs Cenk
I prefer the one with Sally Kohn. Her self own about the prison population is just too good.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:06 am to _Hurricane_
I like Ben. I think he does himself no favors with his overly puritanical stances from time to time... he’ll make a great argument FOR Trump, then go to great lengths to undercut his own positions.
But the Left have nothing on Ben. He totally crushes them on every topic.
But the Left have nothing on Ben. He totally crushes them on every topic.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 7:46 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:10 am to GeauxGoose
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I listen mostly to bongino because he is fact driven.
Bongino was just trying to pump up his Parler investment.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:13 am to GregoryD
He’s the next rush whether you like it or not.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:16 am to bigblake
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Instead conservatives are out there trashing GA Republicans (+vaccines and masks) and making the right look crazy.
I was just thinking this morning about how often people on the right accuse Dems of eating their own if they don't tote their exact line of thought and then turn around and shite on people like Shapiro.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:17 am to _Hurricane_
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I know Ben isn’t popular here, but he’s the biggest conservative voice for us “youths” out there.
Dear God. We're screwed.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:19 am to pankReb
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I was just thinking this morning about how often people on the right accuse Dems of eating their own if they don't tote their exact line of thought and then turn around and shite on people like Shapiro.
Cringe.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:19 am to CptRusty
Will have to look it up, thanks
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:20 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Shapiro is a neocon grifter.
Yep.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:20 am to _Hurricane_
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I know Ben isn’t popular here
I've noticed that - I haven't listened to Ben in quite a while but have never been in disagreement with any of his arguments. It may be that he doesn't take up every controversial issue - I just don't follow him that closely - but I would like to have someone point to an argument he has made that is fundamentally unsound.
It may be that he avoids issues that he does not have an absolutely airtight lockdown irrefutable argument against - and is not therefor the 'leader' that ventures into the unknown (or unprovable)
Anyone denigrating the stances that he does undertake is a fool - or else they need to speak up and educate the rest of us on his mistake. ~~ good luck with that.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:21 am to _Hurricane_
I love Shapiro. But he didn't agree with Trump 110% of the time so he gets blasted on here
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:24 am to Pecker
Shapiro belongs with Ann Coulter in the talks a good game until it matters, then cucks out. frick Ben Shapiro
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:25 am to ChineseBandit58
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Anyone denigrating the stances that he does undertake is a fool -
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ChineseBandit58
Look old man. I've been around long enough to remember when you were close to voting for HRC over Trump, so don't come around here preaching. Shapiro is an Israel-first grifter. He's also a simp that has a recorded history of throwing a colleague under the bus because of an unfounded allegation of sexual harassment by a woman. He's pretty close to establishment as you can get.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:26 am to Choctaw
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I love Shapiro. But he didn't agree with Trump 110% of the time so he gets blasted on here
He does agree with Israel 100% though. America, not so much.
But you do you, Choctaw.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:29 am to GeauxGoose
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They want the Bongino red meat
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Shapiro is logic driven,
. I listen mostly to bongino because he is fact driven.
I admire them both - but there is a difference between logic and fact. Facts are to be interpreted when it comes to moral decisions = difference between right and wrong. Logic is the process of making that interpretation.
I have seen no logical difference between the conclusions of the two of them - perhaps it is just because Shipiro doesn't weigh in on all the issues Bongino does - perhaps he does not have the first hand access to the facts (or the experience to interpret those facts) that Bongino does.
As I mentioned before - I am unfamiliar with the last year of Shapiro stances - is he in conflict with Bongino on conclusions?? or is he just silent on some topics??
Honestly unfamiliar with any of the issues that seem to have arisen with the anti-shapiro factions here.
What is one of those examples?? What issue should I search for??
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:35 am to Dawgwithnoname
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Shapiro is logic driven, and for the extreme right and extreme left, that isn't what they're looking for or just can't understand.
Imagine virtue signaling over who your favorite media talking head happens to be. Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:43 am to Mo Jeaux
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He does agree with Israel 100% though. America, not so much.
What?
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