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re: Any Vietnam era combat vets here or any combat vets...
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:51 pm to TigerMikeAtl
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:51 pm to TigerMikeAtl
PTSD is bullshite. My grandfathers and great uncles slaughtered the Hun and Japs by the hundreds and came home and never gave a frick other than smoking too much. They never wanted pity, glory, recognition, etc. They just wanted to come home and get some American pussy.
PTSD is a myth for the weak minded
PTSD is a myth for the weak minded
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:52 pm to Sput
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PTSD is bullshite. My grandfathers and great uncles slaughtered the Hun and Japs by the hundreds and came home and never gave a frick other than smoking too much. They never wanted pity, glory, recognition, etc. They just wanted to come home and get some American pussy.
PTSD is a myth for the weak minded
Oh boy
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:54 pm to Sput
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PTSD is bullshite. My grandfathers and great uncles slaughtered the Hun and Japs by the hundreds and came home and never gave a frick other than smoking too much. They never wanted pity, glory, recognition, etc. They just wanted to come home and get some American pussy.
PTSD is a myth for the weak minded
I've said more in this thread than my kids/family know. Likely they (the vets you know) put on their best front (this is the only way we know how to act). They certainly were heroes to my generation of military. There is people out there that are frauds though.
This post was edited on 10/30/20 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:55 pm to EKG
I served and never had any issues until about a year ago. Driving down the road I had an anxiety attack. Never want to deal with that again. It was as bad as combat in my opinion because at least you felt like a man to have a reason to be anxious in a combat zone.
Long story short, I went to counseling for it. Realized I was depressed and had learned to bottle up all my feelings. Best $7k I ever spent....but had Obamacare not been implemented I would have spent a fraction of that....
Long story short, I went to counseling for it. Realized I was depressed and had learned to bottle up all my feelings. Best $7k I ever spent....but had Obamacare not been implemented I would have spent a fraction of that....
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:58 pm to Sput
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PTSD is bullshite. My grandfathers and great uncles slaughtered the Hun and Japs by the hundreds and came home and never gave a frick other than smoking too much. They never wanted pity, glory, recognition, etc. They just wanted to come home and get some American pussy.
PTSD is a myth for the weak minded
You’re a fricking idiot. It can be and IS abused, but it’s very real. They just called it “shell-shocked” after WWII. And contrary to popular belief, above a minimum threshold what you saw isn’t really a reliable indicator. People can go through hell for weeks and it doesn’t touch them, others get it from picking up piece-parts and guessing which body bag they go in. And yeah, a lot of shitheads just call any unpleasant mental state PTSD, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real for others.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:58 pm to TigerMikeAtl
To know what veterans have experienced and must continue to endure, while the Biden’s are selling the blood stained ground right from under our feet makes me feel... betrayed, embarrassed, enraged.
Just know that there are still those who see you (and those like you) who understand the cost and cherish the freedoms you’ve fought and died for.
You deserve better than to see this great country prostituted like a common whore. We all do.
We must now fight an entirely different war though I’m afraid. Together. United. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
I’m a mother fricking American willing to trade death for liberty and I’d proudly stand next to you any day.
frick these motherfrickers. I’m not having it. We are not having it. America is not having it.
Home of the brave. Land of the free.
Just know that there are still those who see you (and those like you) who understand the cost and cherish the freedoms you’ve fought and died for.
You deserve better than to see this great country prostituted like a common whore. We all do.
We must now fight an entirely different war though I’m afraid. Together. United. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
I’m a mother fricking American willing to trade death for liberty and I’d proudly stand next to you any day.
frick these motherfrickers. I’m not having it. We are not having it. America is not having it.
Home of the brave. Land of the free.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:58 pm to Sput
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Sput
Amateur night for trolls.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:00 pm to momentoftruth87
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Night sweats suck
This is getting personal ... and I’m not a medical doctor (I do have a PhD, but “Dr. Biden” has embittered me towards it
) ... but ask your PCP/psychiatrist about a drug called Glycopyrrolate. I take it, as needed, along with an anti-anxiety med during panic attacks. It was actually originally created to decrease saliva production (e.g., during surgery, patients with muscle control diseases), but it also reduces sweating. The only drawback is it makes you insanely thirsty.
Just something to consider if the night sweats become debilitating.
*NOTE: This post does not provide medical advice; It is intended for informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional health care, diagnosis or treatment
. Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:08 pm to EKG
Interesting. My va mh prescriber is difficult. She should be on crazy meds and is ridiculous. For example, my anxiety meds (lorazepam), she only gives my 25 pills per month, but its wrote out, "take two times per day", I'm like why can't I get a full month or my 50? I was also on a beta blocker from my cardiologist after my hospital visit (cardiveol) and she then added propanelol and I was like, why am I taking two beta blockers? I asked my cardiologist and he said not to. Its frustrating having this and having idiots treat you. I do like the lorazepam, besides it being a benzo. It sucks rationing 25 pills for a month and not challenging it because I know she won't change it, so I keep to myself.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:10 pm to EKG
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I’m so far from claiming that honor/distinction, it’s laughable.
I only wish I was so noble.
My gratitude is unspeakable, sir.
You’re the reason I vote.
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I’m a woman
Seriously though, thank you ma’am.
I had a senior Lance Corporal in my Recon Indoc Platoon who sounded like he fit your description—prior to learning about your fairer sex...EKG was a “dark green Marine”—the only one in our platoon (cause brothas don’t swim /s)—who didn’t make it back home. He had a long-arse African last name that had an E, K, & G in it, so we just called him EKG...
Thanks for responding and for the kind words. God bless you and yours in the days ahead.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:10 pm to TigerMikeAtl
Combat vet (USMC)...multiple tours. No anxiety whatsoever. I have strange dreams almost nightly, but I chalk it up to just being who I am. Try interrupting your sleep pattern. The weird dreams happen in the first cycle...almost 100% of the time. Wake up, read something or watch a little tv, then force yourself to go back to sleep...I don’t know that I’ve ever had a “bad” dream in the second cycle. The first cycle is usually 2 or 3 hours.
I enjoyed being a Marine and wouldn’t change a thing. Zero regrets. My conscious is clear.
Good luck.
I enjoyed being a Marine and wouldn’t change a thing. Zero regrets. My conscious is clear.
Good luck.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:12 pm to TigerMikeAtl
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Could this be because of the election? I know I haven't felt this amount of anxiety in years.
OIF/OEF vet here. Flashbacks aren't really anything I have. I mean honestly sometimes I really miss combat and I get depressed because I won't see it again, well at least I thought I wouldn't until this election came along.
The closer we've gotten to this election, the more apparent some sort of civil war is inevitable... the total extent of it still up in the air. This has caused great stress in my marriage because war is something I never want/wanted for my family to see. I have become more irritable and quick to anger lately, I feel on edge constantly and ready to go off on the first threat presented. I'm constantly eyeing everyone up and down now. I felt under attack while I was going to early voting and standing in line.
I still hope my instincts are wrong about what is going to happen in the fallout, but instincts are honed by generations of evolution and I cannot say I'm convinced they're wrong here. I just try to enjoy what time I do have to spend with my wife and actively do my best to be kind to her and not angry/mean because she isn't in tune to outside threats.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:12 pm to Sput
Well, then color me a weak, pussy, former combat Marine grunt, twice wounded in Vietnam. I’m 70 percent disabled from PTSD and 100 percent disabled from an Agent Orange-related disease.
I have successfully overcome most of my PTSD symptoms which came in the form of night terrors, absently minded drifting back to dark days and many things seeming to have a link to the Nam (helicopters, fireworks, diesel smell, even long weeds). I sleep much better now — thank you, Miss Ambien. Age cures many ills.
As to your brave uncles and the like, I am willing to bet you anything they suffered from PTSD but were to proud to discuss it because in those days men didn’t discuss their fears, present or past. Don’t fool yourself. They were brave men but suffered inside. I guarantee.
a-hole.
I have successfully overcome most of my PTSD symptoms which came in the form of night terrors, absently minded drifting back to dark days and many things seeming to have a link to the Nam (helicopters, fireworks, diesel smell, even long weeds). I sleep much better now — thank you, Miss Ambien. Age cures many ills.
As to your brave uncles and the like, I am willing to bet you anything they suffered from PTSD but were to proud to discuss it because in those days men didn’t discuss their fears, present or past. Don’t fool yourself. They were brave men but suffered inside. I guarantee.
a-hole.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:14 pm to EKG
Thanks, my man. Night sweats are an issue for me. They come and go, but sometimes, almost like I have been for swim. Semper Fi to all my fellow Vets. Take care of yourselves!
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:15 pm to Sput
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PTSD is a myth for the weak minded
If you have high blood sugar, you treat it with medications and lifestyle changes.
If you suffer from nearsightedness, you correct your vision with lenses/surgery.
If you battle PTSD, you’re one of fewer than 50% of military personnel and veterans whose invisible wounds receive care, compared to 83% who have visible wounds.
These men and women did nothing to invite this illness. And make no mistake, that’s what it is.
The fact that one person’s experiences are different from another’s doesn’t discount either’s walk.
I’m grateful that your family members didn’t suffer emotional health struggles; but many did and do.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:24 pm to TigerMikeAtl
Combat infantryman. One year Vietnam in Northern I Corps. Quang Tri Province in 1969 in all the usual places: Con Thien, Cam Lo, Dong Ha, Rockpile. Still not dead yet. Absolutely no PTSD, but the ocassional weird dreams like the faceless NVA lone soldier coming in through the bathroom window of my house. Loud noises used to set me off years ago, but damn, man, it’s been A HALF A CENTURY. Time to get over it.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:25 pm to TigerMikeAtl
Your spinning up way too hard over this election. Seriously, for your own health don’t worry about it yes it’s important but the country we fought for is strong enough to survive even a Biden win. He most likely won’t win but it’s ok.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:25 pm to TigerMikeAtl
As to dreams about Vietnam, I must note that I often dream about being back in the Nam but they’re not always nightmares or even bad dreams. Sometimes they are just about being back with guys in a bunker laughing or I am returning as a senior Old Salt leading the young guys in the field and doing the right thing because I’m so much older and wiser.
As bad as Vietnam was and the way it is demonized, there are still cherished memories about life-long bonds made and some hilarious moments.
As bad as Vietnam was and the way it is demonized, there are still cherished memories about life-long bonds made and some hilarious moments.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:26 pm to momentoftruth87
Our Rx regimens are eerily similar.
Lorazepam was worthless for me too; Alprazolam (Xanax) was the answer. If you need more of the Lorazepam, tell her; otherwise, it’s not doing what it could. That’s. Her. Job.
I too did the beta blocker. We recently switched from Propanelol to Metoprolol. Same drug category, but better results.
I won’t go into antidepressants since you didn’t mention them. Suffice it to say it’s taken three years to find the most effective combination, and we’re still tweaking it.
That’s the frustration of dealing with brain chemistry—it’s very fickle.
Bottom line: There are boatloads of options—as you well know. As hard as it is to do when you can’t muster the give-a-damn to get out of bed some days, you have to speak up and be your own advocate.
Hang in there. I’m usually around if you need an ear.
Lorazepam was worthless for me too; Alprazolam (Xanax) was the answer. If you need more of the Lorazepam, tell her; otherwise, it’s not doing what it could. That’s. Her. Job.
I too did the beta blocker. We recently switched from Propanelol to Metoprolol. Same drug category, but better results.
I won’t go into antidepressants since you didn’t mention them. Suffice it to say it’s taken three years to find the most effective combination, and we’re still tweaking it.
That’s the frustration of dealing with brain chemistry—it’s very fickle.
Bottom line: There are boatloads of options—as you well know. As hard as it is to do when you can’t muster the give-a-damn to get out of bed some days, you have to speak up and be your own advocate.
Hang in there. I’m usually around if you need an ear.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:29 pm to TigerMikeAtl
Are you service connected for your PTSD?
If not, a resurgence of symptoms would be a legitimate reason to submit a claim.
If not, a resurgence of symptoms would be a legitimate reason to submit a claim.
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