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re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:05 pm to
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People don't care to engage in any kind of high-level intellectual conversation these days.


not about Marxism

Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:06 pm to
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Guess what? Not one NGO wanted to talk about it.


Cubbies doesn't want to talk about NGOs either ...

That's the largest grift ever conceived in our federal government in healthcare, education, welfare, etc.

Which is why its also 61% of our federal budget but muh military spending and Israel ...

Always the same talking points with these insipid robots
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Back when you were conservative



SOMEONE DOES REMEMBER!!!

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:09 pm to
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One day people will understand she’s not interested in legitimate discussion and will ignore her ridiculous threads.
you should start doing this today. Carpe diem!
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Seems like most infrastructure would be handled at the state or local level.

With a large chunk of federal money, kinda like it does now. Of course infrastructure is filled with fraud via overcharging and multi-charging for services.
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Most social programs would possibly/probably be handled at the state and local level, too. Assuming governments operated with integrity (I know).

One day, we may learn that social programs, based upon the singular argument of "well, we should" is what is driving most countries bankrupt. These are nothing more than pay for vote systems and are full of even more fraud than infrastructure and military spending. Even when the people get the benefits they want, they still aren't happy. They riot when governments run out of money and can no longer fully fund these programs (see all of western Europe at this very moment).
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:10 pm to
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Like every thread she starts. Divert, ignore, red herring. Every time.


It’s 6+ pages of her asking the dumbest follow up questions imaginable.

She’s a toddler repeating but why until someone eventually caves and agrees they’re right
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:11 pm to
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Guess what? Not one NGO wanted to talk about it.

That's another arm of privatization. I'm not denying its all a grift. That's literally my point. Siphoning money from the public and depositing it into the pockets of politicians and their friends. Have you ever seen me defend NGOs?
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:11 pm to
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These are nothing more than pay for vote systems


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:11 pm to
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She’s a toddler repeating but why until someone eventually caves and agrees they’re right

What specifically have I argued for in this thread? What am I trying to prove is "right"? Specifically.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:11 pm to
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Will the market always produce the “right” amount of “fair paying” jobs for society to survive?

I understand that everyone can’t live like kings and that’s not what I’m asking.

It already does. Not all labor is equal. Anyone can work the counter at Nordstrom. So much so that there isn't a large wage paid for that labor.

It isn't up to society to ensure people can survive. It is up to the individual alone.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:13 pm to
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You started the thread arguing for Marxism ...

Can you quote the post of mine arguing for Marxism? Thx.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4442 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Have you ever seen me defend NGOs?


Which is why the first place you went with the largest grift is the MIC ...



Again, if you have any knowledge of history at all you'd understand why your initial question about Marxism is a non sequitur ...

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:19 pm to
Weird that you posses all of this historical knowledge and you're just holding it hostage and opting for repetitive insults instead. Bold strategy.
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:22 pm to
It's very difficult to get past the extremely dishonest claim regarding worker productivity. Constantly gets repeated by people who I can only assume are either dishonest or don't understand where the number is coming from. They hear that worker productivity is gone up and they think that means the workers are working harder. But that's silly. Productivity is going up because companies are improving the tools that the workers have access to. For example. It might take 10 people to farm a field if you don't have any tractors. But if I buy you a tractor and now you can do it with one person that one person didn't suddenly become more productive. The fricking tractor became more productive
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:23 pm to
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It isn't up to society to ensure people can survive. It is up to the individual alone.

It's hard to argue in favor of capitalism as producing optimal conditions for society to function and flourish while also arguing that individuals can't depend on capitalism to create the conditions for them to function or flourish. Or at least I don't understand how these two ideas can reasonably coexist.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4442 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:24 pm to
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Weird that you posses all of this historical knowledge and you're just holding it hostage and opting for repetitive insults instead. Bold strategy.


Says the person who didn't know the Federal Budget numbers that are publicly available on the internet ...

Rather than asking your insipid questions here ... go read more.

The knowledge is no longer hostage.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:25 pm to
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It might take 10 people to farm a field if you don't have any tractors. But if I buy you a tractor and now you can do it with one person that one person didn't suddenly become more productive. The fricking tractor became more productive
Fire all the people and make the tractors do all the work. They are to productive element.
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
224 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:26 pm to
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What specifically have I argued for in this thread? What am I trying to prove is "right"? Specifically
This is gaslightinging
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
224 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:27 pm to
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“right” amount of “fair paying” jobs for society to survive
What does the word fair mean in the above sentence
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