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re: Anti-First Amendment Rights LGBT activist decry Kansas new law

Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
I got it. Isn't Dearborn a large percentage Muslim?
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Ya, head over that way and tell them they've gotta bake a cake for your gay wedding.


Jeaux is Jewish so they'll love him so much more.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:05 pm to
I am sure no more prejudiced than North Alabama, North LA, sections of Brooklyn, Jersey , Arizona etc
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:06 pm to
What is the difference between "lesbian" and "gay" .... other than that a lesbian is nothing more than a gay woman ?


Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:11 pm to
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I am sure no more prejudiced than North Alabama, North LA, sections of Brooklyn, Jersey , Arizona etc


I'll personally guarantee you that if you sue a bakery in Hamilton, Al for a gay wedding cake, nobody's gonna start sharpening their scimitar for a beheading.
Posted by SettleDown
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:11 pm to
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i wonder if those businesses will serve couple who have sex outside marriage?

If a business for some reason had a policy of not serving people who cohabitate, then I would support their right to do so even though I would consider it pretty silly.

A business owner is a private entity. Sadly, leftists hate freedom.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:13 pm to
Areas are not prejudiced. Individuals are and that is their right to be so. You are prejudiced as well and are no different, you just lie to yourself by claiming to be "tolerant" while calling people that believe in the rights of the first amendment and second amendment "gun kooks." You are prejudiced because you, like so many others, think government protects and will help. Government created those very laws in the South that you think are so horrific today and if you think that bigger, stronger governments that create laws that require the people to "register and report their spending" on political campaigns as well as laws to restrict the second amendment are "protecting you" then you deserve the very tyranny you are going to get. Sadly, you are a useful idiot that didn't learn from what happened in the 20th century.

Governments that take from one to give to another so they can maintain their power and expand it will eventually take from you and get rid of you as well.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:15 pm to
and right support prejudice and are anti freedom. My statement is just as wrong as yours. Prejudice in public accommodations is illegal. Get over it. The Dixiecrats are dead and restaurants do not have the right to not serve blacks or hotels cannot put up signs saying no Jews.

It may be a private business but once you serve the public who can't discriminate.

I am amazed at how many people on TD are so damn prejudiced. George Wallace is dead the schools were integrated. Cracker Barrel cannot discriminate against blacks.

on the other hand no Bama or red Sox people
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:26 pm to
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on the other hand no Bama or red Sox people


Bama fans or Red Sox folks ain't gonna chop your head off. Go over to Dearborn and tell an Iman he's required to perform a gay wedding.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:29 pm to
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and right support prejudice and are anti freedom.
Supporting prejudice not anti-freedom. That's an absurd conclusion. I should be free to not associate with you. Your "freedom" doesn't included the right to FORCE me to interact with you for frick's sake. You have an odd definition of freedom.
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:30 pm to
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I am amazed at how many people on TD are so damn prejudiced. George Wallace is dead the schools were integrated. Cracker Barrel cannot discriminate against blacks.

You shouldn't assume shite. Just because I support another person's right to freedom doesn't mean that I would make the same choice they'd make.

Being pro-freedom is fricking easy if the only freedom you like is yours.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Prejudice in public accommodations is illegal. Get over it.


Then why do you support denying Christians and their groups to use public parks and schools for Sunday services? That's discrimination of public facilities that the left does. There's this thing in the constitution called "freedom of association." I'm not going to "get over it" because you tell me to. In fact, I find it harder every day to tolerate you when you are so intolerant of me and others that disagree with you and want government to FORCE me and others to do things against our conscience.

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It may be a private business but once you serve the public who can't discriminate.


So because you serve the "public" you now forfeit your rights as an American citizen? A tax paying business owner forfeits his rights because he is paying taxes and running a business.

Well, you better call for MSNBC to stop their fricking bullshite of discrimination and the racial bullshite they do. Hell, talk about prejudiced people. The left has been and always has worked because of fools like you. You hate successful people like Romney, Lod Cook, etc because you think they should be taxed more than you.

You are a bigot against the very system that brought you freedom that the world has rarely seen in the history of man and foolishly have been led to believe jibberish that you've been taught.

BTW, why are there all those clothing optional, men only businesses in Palm Springs? They are discriminating against a slew of people as well public nudity laws. You need to get laws to force them to cater to families and children.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23385 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Prejudice in public accommodations is illegal. Get over it.


And they are and always will be immoral and unjust. Get over it.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:33 pm to
Funny you should ask that. It was first gay rights. Then Lesbian and gay rights. The women wanted a seperate term for themselves. Oh, and they have the Dyke Parades that have signs that say "NO MEN ALLOWED." Well those parades need to come to a screeching halt and should be filled with Southern Baptist families preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ along with them.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:34 pm to
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BTW, why are there all those clothing optional, men only businesses in Palm Springs?


WTF!?!?!?!
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29133 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:39 pm to
If a man thinks he is a woman ... but likes other women ... but, occasionally wants to be with a man ... would that be called a Transgendered Lesbian Bisexual Gay ?


It's all so very confusing. How can one possibly even be expected to accept/not accept, promote/not promote, tolerate/not tolerate, pre-judge/not pre-judge ... they keep added letters to the "gay, et. al." acronym ... hard for us men out here that just want to bang hot chicks ... to keep up.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3292 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:49 pm to
This issue gets very nuanced if, for example, a bakery is willing to offer all of their other services to an LGBT couple, but refuses to bake them a wedding cake on religious grounds.

As far as a wedding planner/reception hall goes, they could turn their business into a private club. Require that all people who want to join your business pay a club fee. Then, create as a requirement that members are not allowed to hold same-sex marriages in the club facility. Then, you are not denying an LGBT couple the right to join your club, but they cannot gain access to the services of your club without joining and signing the agreement. A private club can be selective about who joins as a member. Said club could also start donating directly to anti-LGBT organizations.

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BTW, why are there all those clothing optional, men only businesses in Palm Springs? They are discriminating against a slew of people as well public nudity laws. You need to get laws to force them to cater to families and children.


And THAT's exactly how those men's only clubs function--they are private clubs. You pay an entry fee and are subject to their rules.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:53 pm to
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i wonder if those businesses will serve couple who have sex outside marriage?


Stupid question is stupid.


I just love hypocrites who hide behind the 1st amendment, but don't follow what they preach.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
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You do realize that a wedding is an event and suing someone for not wanting to participate in your event because of their religious reasons is a right. It is not, a right of yours to then ask them such questions as you posted, is it? If what people do in the bedroom is supposed to be private, then don't tell people you are getting married to someone of the same sex. It's no longer private and others have the right to not cater to your event because of the first amendment.


this law also would allow a restaurant to refuse service to a gay couple, but i wonder if they would refuse service to me and a date knowing i am gonna rail her later, and their christian restaurant is helping me do it.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:56 pm to
Megyn Kelly mentioned the transgender that is suing her employer because she was harrassed by them when they referred to it as "her" and "she." It wants gender specific pronouns to not be used when referring to it because they negate what it is.

I say it needs to be negated.
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