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re: Anti-Christian attitude cost Clinton the election
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:11 am to TheRodFather
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:11 am to TheRodFather
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She probably would have lost more voters than she would have gained by being polite to Christians which says a lot about today's society and the left.
One of the problems that the Dems are facing is that their tent has become so large that there are warring factions inside their own party who are at odds. This was illustrated in the Bernie Sanders crowd.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:18 am to deltaland
The strong pro life stance and judge list helped some, if he follows through on it his second term will all but be guaranteed. There were many, many pro life people who normally organize and work for campaigns that were on the sideline because we did not trust Trump on the life issue. We may have voted for him privately but did not "support" his campaign.
The next time around if 1/2 of those come out and work the turnout will be bigger.
The next time around if 1/2 of those come out and work the turnout will be bigger.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:35 am to Revelator
Maybe a small factor. The post mortem seems to be getting bogged down in minutia, when the most obvious factor is the country was coming off an 8 year term of a Dem president and people, especially in rust belt states, saw no improvement and wanted a change.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:39 am to Revelator
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Anti-Christian attitude cost Clinton the election
Yep....along with:
Anti-American attitude
Anti-white attitude
Anti-common sense attitude
Anti-small Gov't attitude
Anti-doing the right thing attitude
Anti-economics attitude
And others
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:46 am to Revelator
quote:My jaw dropped when she went into it being a woman's "intimate choice with her family" as they were discussing late term abortions. I thought it was one of the single-most idiotic things she said the entire election cycle.
I don't think Hillary admitting in the debate that she was fine with killing a child at 9 months gestation period did her any favors.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:53 am to Revelator
quote:That is an oversimplification. Though some of her positions could be categorized that way, in general it is more a factor of near rabid enforcement of federal secularism over panentheism in any form. Christianity just happens to be the most common such expression in this country. In fairness, Obama seemed much more aligned with squashing public Christian expression. Hillary simply did not counter that.
Anti-Christian attitude cost Clinton the election
quote:I find that assertion incredible.
At least Barack Obama tried to court the white evangelical vote.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:55 am to Wtodd
Two other things: First, I think Hillary thought Dem turnout was her ticket to victory so she didn't really need to persuade anyone else. Second, I wonder if her being so sick didn't affect her campaign strategy. She didn't campaign much at all, especially compared to Trump.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:55 am to When in Rome
That's true. Even most pro-abortion people are against late-term abortions and her apparent support of the practice turned off a lot of people.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:04 am to FooManChoo
A lot of hispanic people who may have been turned off by Trump's immigration policies are also very staunch Catholics, so those comments might have flipped them as well. I actually know someone for whom this was the case.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:05 am to NC_Tigah
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find that assertion incredible.
Maybe the writer meant black Christians?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:08 am to Revelator
Ehhh, I really don't think so. Donald Trump has hardly been a pious or godly candidate. I think it was more her calling most Donald Trump deplorables, saying that she deserves the office only because she's a woman, and basically her entire fanbase saying "frick white men" that cost her the election. This is probably the election that had the least to do with religion since the 1800s.
EDIT: On second thought, there was a religion that cost her the election. No it had nothing to do with Christianity, but Islam. They refused to acknowledge it as a problem, while Donald Trump directly responded to it. It was the left's views on Islam that won Trump the election. They just put their head in the sand, especially with what is going on in Europe, and had no answer for what happened, particularly with Nice when they couldn't blame guns at all for that.
EDIT: On second thought, there was a religion that cost her the election. No it had nothing to do with Christianity, but Islam. They refused to acknowledge it as a problem, while Donald Trump directly responded to it. It was the left's views on Islam that won Trump the election. They just put their head in the sand, especially with what is going on in Europe, and had no answer for what happened, particularly with Nice when they couldn't blame guns at all for that.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:13 am to Revelator
It's soOoOoOo hard being Christian in America. Why do so many people refuse to pay lip service to my particular deity? It's not fair.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:17 am to OMLandshark
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Ehhh, I really don't think so. Donald Trump has hardly a pious or godly candidate.
Which was covered in the article and as the writer expounded, a bigger reason for Hillary to court the Christian vote.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:18 am to Revelator
My Mom tends to vote Democrat most of the time, but didn't vote for Hillary because of the Catholic Spring stuff in the Podesta emails.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:19 am to Monsieur le Duc
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It's soOoOoOo hard being Christian in America. Why do so many people refuse to pay lip service to my particular deity? It's not fair.
Get a new prayer rug.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:21 am to Monsieur le Duc
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It's soOoOoOo hard being Christian in America. Why do so many people refuse to pay lip service to my particular deity? It's not fair.
Why isn't it valid to have a conversation about a legitimate voting block and their concerns without this particular attitude?
Why are Christian wants any less important than any other group?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:32 am to Revelator
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Why are Christian wants any less important than any other group?
Bc historically Christians have been too passive & didn't push back.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:37 am to Revelator
Reap/sow. The Dems are merely playing (poorly, hence the loss) on an anti-Christian sentiment that pervades because Christians in America by and large don't act like Jesus.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:45 am to Revelator
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Why are Christian wants any less important than any other group?
What are the policy concerns of the Christian voting block?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:47 am to NC_Tigah
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quote:
At least Barack Obama tried to court the white evangelical vote.
I find that assertion incredible.
He courted the black evangelical vote masterfully and it got him elected twice. I can't think of any examples of him courting white evangelicals at all.
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