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re: Anthony Weiner got jail for sexting minor; Moore will get elected Senator for molesting

Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
quote:


You are melting hard over this allegation


I have yet to see a single person melt over this. More like being in awe at the new depth of tribal depravity this place manages to find almost weekly to excuse even the most deplorable behavior or actions by their tribe. While often moralizing about other tribes simultaneously, or at a minimum trying to deflect responsibility by whatabouting, kept up as long as the other person has a D or GOP-E label they feel they have to fight against. Principles and hypocrisy be damned.


Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

1- There was evidence that Weiner was doing that. He was busted.


2- There is no evidence that Moore did this.


Which is what is in my OP.

But rape, molestation cases and a whole host of sex crime convictions have come without physical evidence. Yes, evidence is a big helper in determining guilt, but witness statements are also forms of evidence. There are 4 different women, as of today. Timing suspect? Weiner would say the same.
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I have yet to see a single person melt over this. More like being in awe at the new depth of tribal depravity this place manages to find almost weekly to excuse even the most deplorable behavior or actions by their tribe. While often moralizing about other tribes simultaneously, or at a minimum trying to deflect responsibility by whatabouting, kept up as long as the other person has a D or GOP-E label they feel they have to fight against. Principles and hypocrisy be damned.


So damn spot on.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83953 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:07 pm to
One is easier to prove than the other.

One was actually charged, represented by counsel, and convicted.

One was given his day in court.

See the difference?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Timing suspect? Weiner would say the same.



What does timing have to do with hard physical evidence AND admitting to the crime?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

There are 4 different women,


AND only 1 saying any type of sexual acts happened.

quote:

Timing suspect? Weiner would say the same.


No he wouldn't. He said "Guilty"
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

If the accusations had been made without evidence, it surely would have been a case of political slimery. However, as I pointed out, there was clear and undeniable evidence for the allegations - hard to feel like a victim at that point, right?

I'm certainly no fan of Moore, and I wouldn't be surprised if the allegations end up being true, but that's not how our system works. Claims require evidence - otherwise, it's piss in the wind.



Umm... witness statements and personal testimony is evidence. It has convicted many an offender... even without physical evidence.

And let's not get too self righteous with the notion of evidence. There was "evidence" that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, until there wasn't.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79954 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

marklsu



I see those checks from the Clinton Foundation have started rolling in again.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Umm... witness statements and personal testimony is evidence.


You like raping small boys.

There is now evidence of you raping small boys.

Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

No he wouldn't. He said "Guilty"


Yes he did... but timing of the revelations point to political schemes. That was my point.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55518 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Umm... witness statements and personal testimony is evidence. It has convicted many an offender... even without physical evidence.



You are correct, but no one has ever been convicted based on non-oathbound claims made in a newspaper. It looks like Moore may file suit against WaPo, so we will see what kind of discovery goes on.

quote:

And let's not get too self righteous with the notion of evidence. There was "evidence" that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, until there wasn't.



Those are entirely different situations. One is a legal matter, the other is justification for military action. Unfortunately, the burden of proof is not exactly high on our government to conduct an operation.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

You like raping small boys.

There is now evidence of you raping small boys.



Nice try... but that isn't what's happening here. It's apparent you haven't read the WP article.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
Your Dems are going to keep Menendez around, a guy who did under aged hookers.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49032 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
Melt
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71515 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:20 pm to
The comparison with Weiner is pretty awful. If it was me, I would argue Jeremy Piven, as he's been ostricized with very little evidence.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55518 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

The comparison with Weiner is pretty awful. If it was me, I would argue Jeremy Piven, as he's been ostricized with very little evidence.



That's my main beef with this - Weiner is an awful comparison, given what we know at the moment.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Nice try... but that isn't what's happening here. It's apparent you haven't read the WP article.



No, you said testimony is evidence.

I testify that you rape small boys. There is now evidence of your raping small boys...using your fricking stupid definition of what is "evidence."

Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16145 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:21 pm to
Melt for lunch?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71515 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:


Umm... witness statements and personal testimony is evidence. It has convicted many an offender... even without physical evidence.


That doesn't sound like something that happens on anything approaching a regular basis.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:23 pm to
Unless I read wrong, the girls weren't legally minors
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