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Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:44 pm to TigerAttorney
quote:Rubio is a Cuban born and raised in Miami, which I would think would give him an advantage in his home county which has a large Cuban population. So it seems noteworthy that DeSantis still outperformed him there against a candidate who had once won multiple state-level offices, including the same Governor office he was vying for.
Bro. 47% of Miami-Dade voted. Trump had more votes in Miami-Dade by like 200k and lost by 5% with 80% turnout. Theres 400-500k dem voters that didn’t vote in that election in Miami-Dade alone! That’s why he won those counties and had wide margins. And Marco Rubio did the exact same thing.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:47 pm to buckeye_vol
The Cubans got on board with trump.
Y’all are completely dismissing Trumps role in Desantis’ rise.
Cubans didn’t make a song singing about fake news because of Ron.
Y’all are completely dismissing Trumps role in Desantis’ rise.
Cubans didn’t make a song singing about fake news because of Ron.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:52 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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December 7
Is that when Herschel has his next election?
December 6
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:54 pm to Pettifogger
Well tell me a couple of the most glaring distinctions between Jeb Bush and Desantis. And I don’t mean that Desantis is more aggressive or he’s a better street fighter (as opposed to the weak appearance of Jeb Bush) because that’s one of the primary complaints from y’all about Trump in this whole thing. Can’t go with that. That’s bad.
So even just a couple of brief bullet points as to what puts those two in distinctly different classes. I may learn something and an willing to do so.
So even just a couple of brief bullet points as to what puts those two in distinctly different classes. I may learn something and an willing to do so.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:56 pm to BuckyCheese
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He's claiming he stopped DeSantis' election from being stolen, yet couldn't stop his own from being jacked?
This.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:58 pm to davyjones
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Well tell me a couple of the most glaring distinctions between Jeb Bush and Desantis. And I don’t mean that Desantis is more aggressive or he’s a better street fighter (as opposed to the weak appearance of Jeb Bush) because that’s one of the primary complaints from y’all about Trump in this whole thing. Can’t go with that. That’s bad.
LOL what
It's absolutely not bad. It's also not what Trump is doing in this whole thing. There is nothing "street fighter" about crybaby screeds on social media about a guy who is ignoring you.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:59 pm to samson73103
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One of these is not like the other. Paul Ryan is globalist scum who fought an America First agenda. frick him.
Meanwhile, Kari Lake refused to accept donations from groups that she doesnt align with and won’t be controlled by.
Ron could simply speak out and let us know now if he agrees with Paul Ryan, Lincoln Project pedos & the globalist WEF agenda that his mega donor Ken Griffin is pushing.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:59 pm to davyjones
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How does anything Trump has said in any way or will in any way negatively affect the Georgia runoff? I’m sure you’ve noticed the nasty divide amongst the right already been going for a while now, and seemingly firing off amongst groups/sites just like this as well as all social media of course. And nothing Trump said fired all that off. Yep, it’s ugly and it’s been fostered and fueled by our own selves. That’s on “us” straight up.
Nothing wrong here. My only thought is timing. The Commies get 100% united behind whatever the masters tell them is "The Current Thing." Our "Only Thing" should be stopping the commies. If the Team BDR GA baws get united on OMB and see Walker as OMB's pick, they will or are more likely sit their arse home and not vote. Having both BDR and BDT on stage united at this time as ALLIES, even if each know they will be FOES, would likely go a lot further on getting that GA UNITED GOP turnout.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:02 pm to Pettifogger
Yeah I see the situation a little differently. According to y’all yourselves it’s a foregone conclusion that Desantis going to bow up to Trump in the primary and Desantis is such badass that Trump doesn’t stand a chance. Sounds like a battle royale to me. If y’all have a problem with how Trump handles himself in a battle royale then that’s a personal problem. Y’all have declared a showdown and Trump’s participating in a showdown. Where’s everyone’s shock and confusion coming from?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:08 pm to davyjones
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Yeah I see the situation a little differently. According to y’all yourselves it’s a foregone conclusion that Desantis going to bow up to Trump in the primary and Desantis is such badass that Trump doesn’t stand a chance. Sounds like a battle royale to me. If y’all have a problem with how Trump handles himself in a battle royale then that’s a personal problem. Y’all have declared a showdown and Trump’s participating in a showdown. Where’s everyone’s shock and confusion coming from?
You're just making stuff up here on a number of fronts. Plenty of us have no idea if DeSantis will run. If he does, I don't know how he'll handle it and while I certainly think DeSantis is far more substantively competent than Trump, I don't know that it means he'd be successful against Trump. Trump is traditionally quite good at taking on challengers, as you referenced earlier.
But you have to realistically consider that DeSantis has seen this coming for years most likely. He knows what Trump is likely to try and do and he's got the benefit of seeing how he handled challengers in 2016. He's seen how Trump dealt with people during the presidency and after. He knows the risks of challenging Trump and the risks of not getting into the race and waiting.
The reality is that Trump hasn't had to take on serious fight in 2 years, maybe a lot longer. He hasn't had a major battle against any element of the right in at least that long. Ron likely saw this coming, and it's entirely unclear what Trump will do if Ron just continues to blow Trump off. Trump has never dealt with that, at least that I can remember.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:14 pm to Pettifogger
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if Ron just continues to blow Trump off. Trump has never dealt with that, at least that I can remember.
It will enrage Trump and he’ll continue to put out sophomoric crap like this that shows his insecurities.
Ron gets to be the statesman above it all while Trump continues to flail and bait him to come into the mud where Trump is more comfortable.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:16 pm to Pettifogger
I’m not going to say you’re wrong because my opinion is no more right than yours at this point, but I will say that it seems to me you’re underestimating Trump, which is certainly not uncommon. Do remember that Trump even has the benefit of having experienced all this already and then some, and as we would all agree, he’s not exactly a traditionalist when it comes to these things. Just seems to me he’s doing his thing same as always. I definitely wouldn’t do a makeover and adopt a new overall approach if I were him. Hell all these same people here loved that very thing only a short time ago.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:17 pm to Scruffy
quote:Well he did more than win. He actually won his race by considerably more than expected (almost 6 points larger margin than 538 forecast), while republicans overall underperformed expectations. Trump has outperformed expectations, but so did republicans in general, and despite that, he lost the popular vote handily and is 1-1 because of a favorable EC makeup. Now in fairness, he helped make that EC makeup more favorable, bringing out low propensity voters and creating a new demographic schism by education levels, specifically a rightward shift in the lower education levels and a leftward shift in the higher education levels.
That is the thing. DeSantis did absolutely nothing except win his race. That is it.
That said, one of the things that stood out about DeSantis’s win, is that even though that education relationship still existed in his race, it seemed less pronounced, bit because the lower education levels shifted leftward but because the higher education levels shifted rightward. He even won those with a post-graduate degree.
So I think the establishment is noticing this, and can see that while DeSantis (and anyone else for that matter) may not bring out those low propensity voters that Trump brought out, he’s still likely to bring in those higher propensity voters that shifted right and have a far better chance of bringing back some of those higher propensity voters that shifted left. Plus Trump probably uniquely brings out some lower propensity voters just to vote against him.
But if I’m the GOP, I don’t want to rely on lower propensity voters and squeaking by because of a favorable EC map. I want the voters who are likely to fire regardless to win the popular vote and win EC comfortably, if not convincingly.
So Trump has to see that there is finally someone there that may not get the ultra-MAGA base, but he’ll be able to get most of them, and bring back others to the party. So his fraction really only caters to the ultra-MAGA, those low propensity voters, who are maybe even lower propensity after he convinced them it’s all rigged against him so they’re votes were stolen anyways.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:24 pm to LSUAngelHere1
quote:I’ll never understand this. Seems like a bigger FU to them to take their money, and then show them you’re not controlled by them and won’t just do what they want, because you’ll do what you want (even if that’s not what they want).
Meanwhile, Kari Lake refused to accept donations from groups that she doesnt align with and won’t be controlled by.
Like when people return money because it came from some neo-Nazi group or something. What’s better than taking money and saying “nazis suck and you wasted your money. Now I, someone who hates Nazis have it, and you don’t.”
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:26 pm to buckeye_vol
Where does Trump come up with this stuff? DeSantis even mention trump?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:28 pm to boosiebadazz
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It will enrage Trump and he’ll continue to put out sophomoric crap like this that shows his insecurities.
Ron gets to be the statesman above it all while Trump continues to flail and bait him to come into the mud where Trump is more comfortable.
Yep. The other day it was "Ron DeSanctimonious".
Got zero reaction so today it's a page and a half of sophomoric hatred.
I figure after DeSantis doesn't react to this either we'll get a full broadside from the Trumpster.
Should be good for laughs.
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