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re: Another color revolution about to go down in Europe? Massive anti-Orban protest in Hungary
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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the vast majority of their elected officials don't.
Addicted to subsidies.
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Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
I remember when I lived in Germany, some Belgian asshat that happened to be the current EU President was angry that the people didn't vote the way he wanted so he said he would keep making them vote again and again until they voted properly.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, citations required.
Not really because 95% of the board sees it for themselves.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:22 am to WeeWee
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If the EU could use those assets then the US would be getting paid back for the aid we have given Ukraine.
So 270 Billion equals what we have spent in trillions?
That money is never coming back to the USA people. It will find it's way back to the politicians.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:29 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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I remember when I lived in Germany, some Belgian asshat that happened to be the current EU President was angry that the people didn't vote the way he wanted so he said he would keep making them vote again and again until they voted properly.
Progressives love for "democracy" is superficial.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yikes!
You should have stopped there. And laughed.
That was a UN thing.
Spend a little less time on the OT, and a little more time reading about what it is you're attempting to address
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:27 pm to WeeWee
Hungarians don’t react well to corruption. If Orban doesn’t abuse his position, he will be fine.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 5:35 pm to WeeWee
The vast majority of them will perish
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:52 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I dont see how Ukraine prevails without someone else providing soldiers.
France and Poland are deploying soldiers to Ukraine soon.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:33 pm to WeeWee
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I dont see how Ukraine prevails without someone else providing soldiers.
France and Poland are deploying soldiers to Ukraine soon
Just frick everything
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:34 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:38 pm to WeeWee
France is already backpeddaling. Poland wants western Ukraine and will try to take it.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:15 pm to Jack Carter
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France is already backpeddaling.
WTF are you talking about. Macron told Biden last week that France could handle Russia by itself if Russia attacked French troops in Ukraine.
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Poland wants western Ukraine and will try to take it.
Well the northwestern areas of Ukraine (aka eastern Galicia) were part of Poland until the Nazi and Soviets divided up Poland. All of that was made mute by the Helsinki accords in the 1970s and the OSCE treaty in the 1990s. So even though the claim is no longer valid it is still a stronger claim than the claim Russia is trying to get recognized.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:00 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Right.
We knew full well what the Russian perceptions re: NATO in Ukraine were, and still are.
I don't understand where the hell someone as bright as SFP comes up with this "NATO-Ukraine equation was/is inconsequential" BS. Russia stated flat out, in the Burns' cable timeframe and subsequently, that NATO expansion into Ukraine "would mean war."
It was, and is, a black-and-white, clear, issue. With no NATO eastward expansion, there would be no Ukrainian War, and Crimea would still be a Ukrainian Oblast. Those facts are not intelligently debatable.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:05 pm to Bunk Moreland
SFP will not like reading that, as it is tangible evidence that he is a dumbass on this matter.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Just FYI. Your emotional insertion of the word "literally" in our exchanges, normally means you've literally lost the argument. This is another such instance.
The truth I literally just proved was a lie?
Posted on 4/7/24 at 11:53 pm to WeeWee
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So even though the claim is no longer valid it is still a stronger claim than the claim Russia is trying to get recognized.
It’s ultimately a question of power and where people’s hearts are. There were massive population transfers after the war though, the Allies wanted to create ethnically homogeneous states, so the Poles who once lived there are long since gone.
The story of Bogdan Khmelnitsky and the events around the Pereyaslav Agreement are interesting though.
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