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re: Another color revolution about to go down in Europe? Massive anti-Orban protest in Hungary
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Could you define “Russian puppet” because it appears to be anyone who doesn’t absolutely believe that Ukraine will defeat Russia. That’s called a realist, not a puppet. If Orban is a “puppet” for keeping cheap energy coming to his country and not allowing mass immigration which are both good for Hungarians while also not throwing money down a hole in Ukraine, it seems like the rest of Europe needs more Orbans. I guess Germany, Estonia, Poland, and Finland are US puppets per your thin logic.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:12 am to Drizzt
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Could you define “Russian puppet” because it appears to be anyone who doesn’t absolutely believe that Ukraine will defeat Russia.
Its some of the most low IQ shite Ive seen.
If you disagree with any of the basic bitch orthodoxy, youre a "pootin stooge."
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:12 am to Drizzt
Germany committed economic suicide for virtue signaling or something. They should have kept rolling with cheap Russian energy.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:14 am to Drizzt
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Could you define “Russian puppet” because it appears to be anyone who doesn’t absolutely believe that Ukraine will defeat Russia. That’s called a realist, not a puppet.
The frick does this framing have to do with 2014?
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If Orban is a “puppet”
Who said this?
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its some of the most low IQ shite Ive seen.
If you disagree with any of the basic bitch orthodoxy, youre a "pootin stooge."
Rog, it's time for your mid-morning nap.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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When one is defending
Straw man.
That's not a straw man. That's a fact.
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This is just an absolute lie.
No Slowmo, it's not.
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Why do you have to base your arguments in lies?
I didn't.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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Rog, it's time for your mid-morning nap.
Or, you can stop pretending youre not literally carrying a vapid, trite argument based on nothing but American propaganda.
Between Russia is evil and America is at fault, theres a lot of ground. But I vote here, not in Russia.
The ease at which you accept really poor propaganda is getting frightening.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:19 am to BCreed1
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That's not a straw man. That's a fact.
Then show your work and cite these "defenses"
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No Slowmo, it's not.
Again, citations required.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:20 am to Drizzt
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I guess Germany, Estonia, Poland, and Finland are US puppets per your thin logic.
Them Pootin Stooges are everywhere man.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Or, you can stop pretending youre not literally carrying a vapid, trite argument based on nothing but American propaganda.
When you understand what's actually being discussed.
Nobody called any Americans or Orban a Russian puppet, ITT.
The only person called a "Russian puppet" ITT is Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych, who is literally a puppet of Russia/Putin
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:23 am to BuckyCheese
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This must have been included in the $1.2 trillion spending bill that no one read.
We have had a bunch of those lately.
I suspect thats were money to import these immigrants is hidden. Payoffs to non profits.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:24 am to Sofaking2
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What if I told you “who cares?”. It’s Hungary’s business and not for the US to be concerned. I don’t care about what happens in Europe or Russia as long as it doesn’t affect the US and it hasn’t. We need to mind our own business.
I care because Hungary is the only nation blocking the EU from using the 270 billion USD worth of seized Russian assets to help Ukraine. If the EU could use those assets then the US would be getting paid back for the aid we have given Ukraine.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:26 am to WeeWee
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I care because Hungary is the only nation blocking the EU from using the 270 billion USD worth of seized Russian assets to help Ukraine.
Which will be a wasted 270 billion. We are in 2016 of WWI again. Just a meatgrinder.
We all know what Ukraine needs is bodies.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I care because Hungary is the only nation blocking the EU from using the 270 billion USD worth of seized Russian assets to help Ukraine.
Which will be a wasted 270 billion.
Better than just sitting in a frozen bank account or given back to Russian oligarchs who stole it from the Russian people.
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We are in 2016 of WWI again.
I'm assuming that you meant 1916.
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Just a meatgrinder.
We all know what Ukraine needs is bodies.
Which is why Ukraine lowered its conscription age and expanded the number of people that can be conscripted this past week. That is also why France, Poland, and other european countries are sending troops to into Ukraine to train their soldiers and free up units to move from the west to the east to fight.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:36 am to WeeWee
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Which is why Ukraine lowered its conscription age and expanded the number of people that can be conscripted this past week.
Saw that, I would be surprised if battle aged men will remain in Ukraine here on out.
Russia doesnt need the money as much as Ukraine needs men. I dont see how Ukraine pulls this thing off.
Russia can just dig on and hold on.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:40 am to blueboy
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Can't imagine who might be funding this 'protest.'
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote: So your argument is that delivering an intact Ukraine, including Crimea, would be "fricking Ukrainians over"? They would be a literal puppet of Russia, subjugated to Russia entirely economically.
SFP 4/6/24 10:06 am
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Saw that, I would be surprised if battle aged men will remain in Ukraine here on out.
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Martial law also prohibits most men between the ages 18 and 60 from leaving Ukraine, unless they are deemed unfit for military service for health reasons or have an exemption.
Military aged males are still not allowed to leave the country.
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Russia doesnt need the money as much as Ukraine needs men. I dont see how Ukraine pulls this thing off.
Dig in, train troops, keep striking Russian oil refineries and keep training engineers and converting T64s into mine clearing vehicles. A large reason why the counteroffensive failed is that the west forced Ukraine to launch it before it had the necessary equipment and engineers to clear the Russian obstacles.
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Russia can just dig on and hold on.
But Russia is not doing that. They are launching daily assaults on next line of Ukrainian fortications and sustaining heavy casualties.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:00 am to WeeWee
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Military aged males are still not allowed to leave the country.
They will find a way.
What are they coming home to? Maybe I have lost the point, but Ukraine isnt going to displace Russia without a massive Influx of ground troops. Offensives are very deadly.
I dont see how Ukraine prevails without someone else providing soldiers.
I just dont see the point here with feeding this beast.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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We may be about to see that the EU and a feeling of being part of modern Europe is more popular.
You've clearly never lived in Europe. The vast majority of Europeans hate the EU.
Unfortunately for them, the vast majority of their elected officials don't.
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