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re: Another beef rancher says goodbye
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
Most farmers I know, are very well off, yet milk the U.S. teet for every dime they can and use a working force of 95%-98% illegals in order to make money by not paying a legit min wage.
I used to be all for the Farmers in the 80's with FarmAid etc, but after seeing the REL American Farmer.... yeah.... We all wish we had it so good.
I used to be all for the Farmers in the 80's with FarmAid etc, but after seeing the REL American Farmer.... yeah.... We all wish we had it so good.
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:36 pm to The Pirate King
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Another country controlling our food supply is bad news
There are a lot of things that are bad news that get shrugged away with the excuse of "it's just business". If it makes a few richer today, who cares if the entire nation is fricked tomorrow? That's somebody else's problem.
Then there are the utopians like Gates. Pure evil.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:37 pm to conservativewifeymom
He should just raise his prices, according to Big Scrub TX.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:40 pm to conservativewifeymom
Sad to see. We raise our own beef. I like to keep around 8-10 head of cattle including a bull. This should ensure that we have the ability to continue to provide our own beef and if needed we can sell one or two here and there if needed to keep herd size down.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:00 pm to SWCBonfire
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Of course, they're also paying an extra 15.3% self employment tax on top of their normal tax rate (which they only get to deduct half of as an expense since they are both employee and employer).
Any small business will incorporate as an S-corp to minimize these taxes. I reduced my taxes $7,000 the first year I incorporated. Is there something different about farming that precludes this?
Posted on 2/14/24 at 4:35 pm to El Segundo Guy
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I have some cattle and I always will. But my little cow-calf operation has gone from turning a modest profit into being a net loser.
I'm right there with you. Insurance, fuel, repair and parts, fertilizers and cost of herbicides have almost gutted any profit.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 4:51 pm to OK Roughneck
Don't forget the electronic ear tags you are about to have to buy. You cam thank the crooked NCBA for helping to push that.
How we have let 4 corporations, two foreign owned, control 82% of all meat production in this country is crazy.
How we have let 4 corporations, two foreign owned, control 82% of all meat production in this country is crazy.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:03 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Is there something different about farming that precludes this?
Nope, just that you still have to pay payroll taxes on a reasonable salary.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:04 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Welcome to Capitalism.
If you're looking for where labor is in charge, find a communist country.
Yeah, because they're so full of the entrepreneurial spirit!
To be fair, I've got zero problems with people paying lower taxes on capital gains. But why tax earners more? I'm for lower taxes, period.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:11 pm to FredBear
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Any blame for them? Or is that (D)iffrent?
Of course it's different, who expects the party of giveaways to be fiscally responsible? They never run on it, the Republicans do.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:16 pm to Taxing Authority
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Excuses.
The Republicans run on fiscal responsibility, but won't deliver. The Democrats run on giveaways and deliver.
If the people want giveaways over fiscal responsibility, why have they voted Republicans into the House majority for 22 of the last 30 years?
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The Republicans run on fiscal responsibility, but won't deliver. The Democrats run on giveaways and deliver.
You actually posted something I agree with.
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If the people want giveaways over fiscal responsibility, why have they voted Republicans into the House majority for 22 of the last 30 years?
Because of the unique composition of House districts.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why is that, do you suppose?
Democrat party discipline and spineless Congressional GOP.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:21 pm to SWCBonfire
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Yeah, because they're so full of the entrepreneurial spirit!
You're the one pulling for labor.
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I'm for lower taxes, period.
Not me, I'm for more personal economic gain whether it takes a tax cut or not is irrelevant to me as long as my financial situation improves.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Not me, I'm for more personal economic gain whether it takes a tax cut or not is irrelevant to me as long as my financial situation improves.
Spoken like a true Trust-Fund Baby.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:25 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:What are major inputs to grass fed beef?
With input prices continually on the rise
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:25 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Of course it's different, who expects the party of giveaways to be fiscally responsible?
Damn, we actually agree on something. Or at least somewhat.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:30 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:I mean, yes? I think I consume more beef - both direct-from-farm and store bought than anyone else on here - and I've actually noticed the prices are lower than they were a year ago.
He should just raise his prices, according to Big Scrub TX.
I would not be surprised at all if the ranch in question from the OP is reliant on all manner of government subsidies. Like someone else on here said - maybe just a bad business plan. I see from the website it involves "delivering from Northeast New Mexico to your door". It doesn't surprise me at all if that turns out to be hard to execute on - regardless of market environment.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:38 pm to oogabooga68
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Trust-Fund Baby
Sorry you're poor.
j/k, not really.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:40 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:And if it's NOT grass-fed, corn prices are down like 40% over the past year. Propane is down a lot too from the highs.
With input prices continually on the rise
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