re: Anna Luna: Based on what I've seen. I believe there were two shooters in killing of JFK

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RFK, I think that's THE dividing line between you and most of us. Do you still retain that faith?

I have ZERO faith in "my" governmemt institutions to determine anything important.

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So because you couldn’t eat inside a Taco Bell for a couple months, you now can’t believe a 60 year old investigation nor any since?

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So because you couldn’t eat inside a Taco Bell for a couple months, you now can’t believe a 60 year old investigation nor any since?

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For me, it comes down to the where one puts ones "faith." I don't have faith in any person or institution. I can have trust that's earned.

Once I read the magic bullet theory, I concluded that the Warren Commission wasn't really seeking the truth. My GUESS is that LBJ appealed to the Commissioners since of patriotism..."It will be better for the country if they believe that a lone nut killed JFK."

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For me, it comes down to the where one puts ones "faith." I don't have faith in any person or institution. I can have trust that's earned.

Once I read the magic bullet theory, I concluded that the Warren Commission wasn't really seeking the truth. My GUESS is that LBJ appealed to the Commissioners since of patriotism..."It will be better for the country if they believe that a lone nut killed JFK."

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So just disregard the mountain of actual evidence and stick your faith in this shiny bucket of make believe. I like it.

Anna Luna: Based on what I've seen. I believe there were two shooters in killing of JFK

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the sound records prove a 2nd shot and not only that everyone was looking at the grassy knoll

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No they don’t. And spatial comparison of frames 312 and 313 clearly show frontward reaction of Kennedy’s head at impact, indicative of a shot from the rear. The echo off the grassy knoll is a known characteristic of the plaza and the reason people turned their attention there.

i'm really sick of this tease. trump ordered the info be released weeks ago...well where the f**k is it. tired of waiting. so frustrating

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Do you realize how many studies have been done on the sound recording and how many take into account of the open mic is moving?

One limited study does not make it right, just shows it has a different limiting factor on the open mic.

But i would give it is better than some studies not taking into account the moving open mic.

But echos are far different than a shot and are easier to tell then the first studies done. The shots are all still on tape and easy to pick out, but no were some of the early studies, most still have a number from 4-7 if my memory holds up on all these studies.

But never depend the bases of the shooting on audio, audio is only a backup model and no matter what due to the moving open mic it is not reliable to base a model of the shooting on.

Hard evidence, like the motorcycle officer hit with blood splatter, is a fact, which places a shooter to the front right of the car. And remember he is not the only one and his motorcycle is not the only vehicle hit with that splatter. That is a hard line in evidence, that is not a studied model how one draws line to except or reject a shot on tape on a moving open mic.

Hard evidence is witnesses seeing the smoke of the shot and hearing it and would be accepted in any court if there is a real trail, not a forum to find out what happened.

Hard evidence is a picture clearly showing a puff of smoke at the time of a shot.

You have to set a line on hard evidence and conjecture.

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Hard evidence, like the motorcycle officer hit with blood splatter, is a fact, which places a shooter to the front right of the car.

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No it doesn't, because there wasn't. Blood spatter was sent in multiple directions due to impact and Kennedy's body seizing as a result. Frame 313 clearly proves that the head went forward on impact and violently rocked backwards when Kennedy's body responded to the trauma.

The is not one shred of credible evidence that there was a shooter in front of the Presidential limo. There are a lot of contradictory eyewitness statements that curiously evolved over time. Autopsy photos weren't faked, no witnesses were tampered with, there was no "magic bullet" (there was a bullet that followed a predictable and repeatable trajectory based on Kennedy and Connally's position inside the limo relative to Oswald's shooting angle.)

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Probably 3. Oswald most likely had blanks like Sirhan.

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Oswald didn't fire a dang shot most likely. 3 - 4 shooters. One or two may have not shot.

Good evidence the below were present at Dealy Plaza:

-Herminio Diaz Garcia, a Cuban exile, mob figure and skilled marksman. He had felt betrayed by JFK’s inaction against Castro, especially his lack of military support during the Bay of Pigs invasion.

— John Souetre, a French assassin who had tried to kill French President Charles de Gaulle. Was involved in French Algeria and they felt betrayed by Kennedy because Kennedy supported a free Africa not French Colonialism.

— Charles Nicoletti, a Chicago mob associate and hit man for Giancana. He was murdered in 1977 before he could testify in front of the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations.

— Jack Cannon, a CIA operative