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Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:17 pm to 4cubbies
Tell us what level 4 prisons are for, and what percentage of Angola inmates are serving life sentences. Show us something.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:17 pm to 4cubbies
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Not everyone in Angola is a violent felon.
How many are there for non-violent offenses? You don’t know or otherwise you wouldn’t have asked me. Without even looking, I’d wager it’s the overwhelming majority of prisoners incarcerated there.
The percentages don’t matter to your contrarian logic anyway, because you feel sorry for everyone there and don’t think they should have to perform hard labor, regardless of what crimes they committed to get there.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:20 pm to Jbird
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So a guy doing two years in minimum is moved for no reason to a max?
Wow! So much wrong in this thread. DOC doesn’t really have max or min prisons. They have different levels of security at all facilities. Guys will move around as they get different jobs, reach different levels, and they move guys around so they don’t become too familiar with an area. That includes moving them from Angola to Hunt to Wade and moving them from Camp A to Camp C, etc.
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they volunteer to work vs being inside
They don’t really volunteer. They are assigned to work the fields. That’s usually where they start and move up to other jobs like tier walker, janitor, custodian, painter, cook, etc.
But yes, most prefer to work in the field and make some money instead of being inside with no money and no upward mobility.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:21 pm to LemmyLives
It varies. The population at any prison in Louisiana changes constantly. Prisoners are shuffled around the state to prevent prison gangs from forming, and to maintain order. I’m not privy to the exact number of inmates and all their convictions at a given prison on a given day, nor would I want to keep up with that data.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:22 pm to 4cubbies
Gangs you say?
Sounds mostly peaceful.
Sounds mostly peaceful.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:24 pm to tide06
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...... seems pretty inhumane to me.
If the crime is inhumane, the punishment must be inhumane!! Working in heat is not inhumane. People have been doing it forever.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:25 pm to Barneyrb
If you really want to control that place, you should air condition half of it.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:26 pm to Socrates Johnson
Sherriff Arpaio had it right.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:32 pm to 4cubbies
Holy shite. This has been nearly your schtick in any thread you've posted on today.
71% of inmates in Angola are serving life sentences. Level 4, maximum security prisons, at least on the Federal Level, are used, based on a number of factors, for those serving 30+ year sentences, or those whose case reviews meet certain criteria, including violence, education level, etc.
I wish I could give you the state definition, but there are currently 19 Louisiana agencies which are partially or totally offline. But I haven't been working on a goddamned dissertation, that's just what it took me ten minutes to find.
71% of inmates in Angola are serving life sentences. Level 4, maximum security prisons, at least on the Federal Level, are used, based on a number of factors, for those serving 30+ year sentences, or those whose case reviews meet certain criteria, including violence, education level, etc.
I wish I could give you the state definition, but there are currently 19 Louisiana agencies which are partially or totally offline. But I haven't been working on a goddamned dissertation, that's just what it took me ten minutes to find.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:36 pm to Riverside
Well for one the 8th Amendment speaks on “cruel and unusual punishment” and was ratified in 1791.
I’d refer you to the case Wilson v. Seiter, 501 U.S. 294, where the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a defendant charging cruel and unusual punishment as a result of his prison conditions must prove a culpable state of mind on the part of prison officials.
The Court maintained that deliberate indifference is the appropriate mental standard to apply to eighth amendment cases.
Intelligent people should understand that the US constitution does not “mandate comfortable prisons, and only those deprivations denying the minimal civilized measure of life’s necessities are sufficiently grave to form the basis of an 8th Amendment violation” Rhodes v. Chapman, 452 U.S. 337, 69 L. Ed. 2d 59, 101 S. Ct. 2392 (1981).
You show yourself an idiot if you believe the courts only have revisionist history.
I’d refer you to the case Wilson v. Seiter, 501 U.S. 294, where the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a defendant charging cruel and unusual punishment as a result of his prison conditions must prove a culpable state of mind on the part of prison officials.
The Court maintained that deliberate indifference is the appropriate mental standard to apply to eighth amendment cases.
Intelligent people should understand that the US constitution does not “mandate comfortable prisons, and only those deprivations denying the minimal civilized measure of life’s necessities are sufficiently grave to form the basis of an 8th Amendment violation” Rhodes v. Chapman, 452 U.S. 337, 69 L. Ed. 2d 59, 101 S. Ct. 2392 (1981).
You show yourself an idiot if you believe the courts only have revisionist history.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:38 pm to LemmyLives
Why are you so upset? I’m totally fine with you wasting, er spending your time googling to disagree with me. I didn’t realize my posts had so much influence over you.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:39 pm to 4cubbies
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They volunteer to work fields while an armed guard on horseback points a rifle at them?
Actually, yes. It gets them outside and gives them something to do.
However, they are still humans and have a human right to safety while working and while in the jail. If it’s 100+ degrees, whether inside or outside (actually both at Angola), then water and rest time should be mandatory. You can’t kill them.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:40 pm to TBoy
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and gives them something to do.
More evidence that you don’t know anything about Angola or DOC.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:41 pm to 4cubbies
Oh thank God you're fine with facts!
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:41 pm to Jbird
Here’s a fact. Angola isn’t the only state prison that houses inmates serving life sentences.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:42 pm to 4cubbies
No shite! Man your dissertation will clearly be impressive!
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:45 pm to 4cubbies
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More evidence that you don’t know anything about Angola or DOC.
I don’t get into arguments about what or who i know. Let’s just say that Ive been to the rodeo more than most and leave it at that.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:45 pm to Jbird
It’s not even worth it. I forgot that the majority of posters here already know everything. And if you encounter something you don’t know, a ten minute google search will make you an expert.
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