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re: Angola Farm Line lawsuit will determine if forced prison labor is unconstitutional

Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

It’s not about revenge. It’s about putting the perp in a situation where he can’t commit crime.


Why doesn’t every crime carry a life sentence?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21719 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:17 pm to
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an incentive to arrest and incarcerate individuals


There’s a little something you’re missing between arrest and incarceration.

Like… at least 12 things.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:20 pm to
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people don’t end up in Angola in a vacuum

You have no fricking clue how people end up in Angola. Quit pretending you do.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46851 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Why doesn’t every crime carry a life sentence?
Justice demands different punishments for different crimes and for differing levels of severity of crime.

There needs to be more death sentences for murders, rapes, and other violent crimes, and for repeat offenders who continue to prey upon society.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21719 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:23 pm to
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You have no fricking clue how people end up in Angola. Quit pretending you do.


I have a pretty good idea.

This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 2:26 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Cubbies has a husband? She seems more like the wife-wife type.


How?

Me in politard fantasy land:


Reality:
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Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Most people with firing neurons can recognize the difference, but per your post history, it's easy to see your confusion.


What is your definition of Justice? What is the goal of our “justice system,” in specific terms?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21719 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Me in politard fantasy land:


quote:

Reality


I gotta point out... no man in either picture.

Seriously though, if that's a decent caricature of you and your babies, yall are an adorable bunch!
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Full text of the 13th Amendment of the U.S. constitution:


Now do the 8th Amendment of the U.S. constitution.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

What is your definition of Justice? What is the goal of our “justice system,” in specific terms?
Why do you almost always turn your threads into word parsing purgatories??

Answer: Because you enjoy arguing.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21719 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:30 pm to
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What is the goal of our “justice system,” in specific terms?


"In specific terms, the goal of the American "justice system" is to maintain public order, ensure safety, and uphold the rule of law." ~google
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8408 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:31 pm to
Obama Is Making Money On Privatized Prisons and Slave Labor...it's part of the prison pipeline.

Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:35 pm to
[asks AI, posts results]
quote:

I have a pretty good idea.


Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21719 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:36 pm to
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[asks AI, posts results]


For your benefit, fren, lest you think they are all jaywalkers and running redlights.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8408 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:36 pm to
Who Owns Private Prison Stock?

snip:
The nation’s two largest for-profit prison companies, Tennessee-based Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and Florida-based GEO Group (GEO), are publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange. Other private prison firms, including Management & Training Corporation (MTC), Community Education Centers (CEC), LaSalle Southwest Corrections and Emerald Correctional Management, are privately-held and thus do not have public stock.

As of July 2015, CCA had issued approximately 117 million shares of stock with a market cap of $4.05 billion, while GEO had issued around 75 million shares with a market cap of $2.76 billion. So who owns the vast majority of stock in these two companies? The answer is not everyday people or individual investors, but rather other corporations – banks, mutual fund management companies and private equity firms – as well as public employee retirement systems.

In fact, around 92.4% of CCA’s stock was owned by 300 institutional investors while 91.1% of GEO Group stock was owned by 272 institutional investors at the end of July 2015. In some cases, the same institutional investors held stock in both companies.

The largest owner of CCA stock was Vanguard Group, Inc., with 16.79 million shares valued at $578.9 million, followed by Vanguard’s Specialized-REIT Index Fund, a mutual fund, with 8.8 million shares. Other top institutional investors included Managed Account Advisors with 6.4 million shares, London Co. of Virginia with 6.13 million shares and Epoch Investment Partners, Inc. with just over 6 million shares.
....
President Obama holds all of his wealth in just two Vanguard funds, Vanguard 500 Index Fund where he has 3 accounts and the Vanguard FTSE Social Index Fund where he holds another 3 accounts


https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2015/jul/31/who-owns-private-prison-stock/
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

they are all jaywalkers and running redlights

Why in the world would you think that?
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15737 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 2:41 pm to
Under what clause of the Conjobstitution could prison labor be unconstitutional? Laughably stupid
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:32 pm to
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You have no fricking clue how people end up in Angola. Quit pretending you do.


All these people are experts on prison because the government tells them that everyone accused of a crime is a violent predator deserving of harsh punishment. Except for Donald Trump.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Because you enjoy arguing.


guess it takes one to know one
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:35 pm to
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Under what clause of the Conjobstitution could prison labor be unconstitutional? Laughably stupid


The Eighth Amendment. It’s stated explicitly in the OP. More than once even.
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