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re: And WhileThe Trump Admin Is Focused On Regime Change In Venezuela…

Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:47 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:47 am to
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Yet I was having a lunch meeting with a client.


At chick fil-a? Yikes.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:52 am to
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At chick fil-a?


It was adjacent to the construction job site we were on.

It was literally a working lunch.

And what do you have against CFA?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 7:53 am to
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And what do you have against CFA?


Hes an urban metrosexual and is pretentious as frick.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:04 am to
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Hes an urban metrosexual and is pretentious as frick.


I’ve always liked BOND’s takes. I think he is an attorney.

In any event, white collar professionals — no matter how experienced and knowledgeable — sometimes have a blind spot. They think their norm is the norm.

3 martini lunches wearing a suit and tie at an upscale restaurant is not how all business lunches are conducted. Far from it.

This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 8:04 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:07 am to
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In any event, white collar professionals — no matter how experienced and knowledgeable — sometimes have a blind spot. They think their norm is the norm.


Bonds is Michael Scott from "The Office."

He just has no clue how cringe he really is, but isnt afraid to say it.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20387 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:17 am to
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Yikes. This is a novel take.

It's really a part 2 addendum to the delusion surrounding the economy going into 2020. You know, when our "booming" economy needed 3 rate cuts in the last half of 2019, due to stagnating.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8886 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:19 am to
BS
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
969 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:26 am to
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You are “stating observed facts” you say? You certainly have a peculiar way of saying you know nothing whatsoever about my personal financial situation. .


You are clearly not doing well, or you wouldn’t be on here whining like a little fa ggot. Observed facts, with some critical/analytical reasoning skills tied in. Just sayin’, skittles.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:41 am to
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Observed facts, with some critical/analytical reasoning skills tied in.


Is that how you characterize your contributions to this thread?

O.K.

But again, you certainly have a peculiar way of admitting that you couldn’t find your arse with both hands, a mirror and a road map.

Posted by WheyCheddar
Member since Aug 2024
897 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:46 am to
Absolutely none of this is true. No wonder this group is so delusional.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15794 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:05 am to
A lot of folks in the bubble deny the rising tide of discontent.

That’s odd, considering what the American people have endured for the last 50 years or so, Trump is a stark contrast to all of that.

Has a single shot been fired on foreign enemy soil? Is Halliburton setting up shop in Venezuela with JD Vance sitting in as the VP and ALSO the CEO?

Why do the polls never come to people like me? I champion about 95% of what Trump has done in this short time, about 80% of which would have NEVER been done in the remaining history of this country.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:12 am to
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That’s odd, considering what the American people have endured for the last 50 years or so, Trump is a stark contrast to all of that.


He's the embodiment of it.

MAGA is the establishment now and "America First" no longer matters to him.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15794 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:36 am to
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He's the embodiment of it. MAGA is the establishment now and "America First" no longer matters to him.


Roger, Bush and Cheney sent thousands of troops to the sandbox over 9/11 and WOMD, which was completely fabricated and was broadcast to the general public all the while Washington KNEW they were perpetuating an Intelligence lie. 10,000’s of Americans died because of it and it was a lie.

In a stark contrast, actual WOMD are literally being developed (speculation on how close they were to being operable). Bush/Cheney era would have sent Americans to their death FOR MUCH LESS. Instead, it’s over in 10 mins, the pilots are back home, no Americans NOR Iranians were killed.

“IT’S EXACTLY THE SAME!”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:40 am to
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Roger, Bush and Cheney sent thousands of troops to the sandbox over 9/11 and WOMD, which was completely fabricated and was broadcast to the general public all the while Washington KNEW they were perpetuating an Intelligence lie. 10,000’s of Americans died because of it and it was a lie.


Which is the same thing we are doing with Venezuela.

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5623 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:41 am to
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Roger, Bush and Cheney sent thousands of troops to the sandbox over 9/11 and WOMD, which was completely fabricated and was broadcast to the general public all the while Washington KNEW they were perpetuating an Intelligence lie. 10,000’s of Americans died because of it and it was a lie.



Why is Trump giving a "security guarantee" to Ukraine in the 28 point peace plan?

Sounds like a Bush/Cheney move to me.

I thought we did not want to be the World's police?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:58 am to
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Bush and Cheney sent thousands of troops to the sandbox over 9/11 and WOMD, which was completely fabricated and was broadcast to the general public all the while Washington KNEW they were perpetuating an Intelligence lie. 10,000’s of Americans died because of it and it was a lie.


All so true: the foundational corruption of our nation’s IC is one of the wellsprings of the continuing crisis. And despite what Kash Patel has declared, does any rational person doubt that deeply embedded elements in the IC were in someway involved in the two attempts on Trump’s life?

Yet many ostensible MAGA posters on this very forum are cheering on the Trump Administration’s pursuit of a regime change operation against Venezuela? The problem here is the success of any such operation is wholly dependent upon an innately corrupted national security apparatus which is deeply embedded with nefarious operatives whose main goal is to undermine the MAGA agenda.

To say there is a serious disconnect here is a massive understatement. It indeed is pure insanity.




This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 10:10 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:07 am to
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Which is the same thing we are doing with Venezuela.


You got that right.

Whatever arguments can be made for a regime change operation against Maduro, targeting drug traffickers is far from the primary reason.

Anyone who argues otherwise may themselves be suffering from a drug-induced hallucination.

This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22216 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:09 am to
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You can thank Marco! He and the other neocons in the Trump admin are doing a bang-up job! I have a real sense of deja-vu!


Who is your choice for SOS. You bitch about Marco but we have no idea who you think and do the job? Joe Rogan?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:12 am to
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Whatever arguments can be made for a regime change operation against Maduro, targeting drug traffickers is far from the primary reason.


Bingo. You have to suspend reality to accept that as a good reason.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23166 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:38 am to
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Who is your choice for SOS. You bitch about Marco but we have no idea who you think and do the job? Joe Rogan?


I know very little about Rogan’s opinions on foreign policy so I can’t offer a knowledgeable answer to that question. With that said, I don’t imagine Rogan could be worse than Rubio — and yes, I know this is supposed to be mockery but similar objections were used against Trump himself: “Trump is nothing but reality tv star…”

Perhaps a more realistic option would have been Tulsi Gabbard? Tulsi was my preferred choice for SoD but Tulsi as SoS would have been a vast improvement over a neocon like Rubio.

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