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And so it begins for Biden

Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:08 am
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:08 am
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:11 am to
“Corrupt former AG of Ukraine files debunked charges against presidential contender and former VP Joe Biden”

-CNN
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 1:11 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12177 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:11 am to
Joe will have to say the magic word 3 times today.


Debunked


Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:14 am to
Here we go
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:22 am to
CNN will report this during the Super Bowl.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:43 am to
“Corrupt former Prosecutor of Ukraine files charges of debunked conspiracy theory against President front runner and VP Joe Biden”

-MSNBC
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14190 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:55 am to
Damn. Zelensky can use the form of that suit to file a similar lawsuit against Trump.
Posted by TomTheGhost
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:00 am to
quote:

front runner


Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9420 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:13 am to
quote:

Zelensky can use the form of that suit to file a similar lawsuit against Trump.


He's already said there was no pressure. Why would he file such a complaint? Do you read the words you type before you hit submit?
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:45 am to
If you can sift through the cover that the press provides, pay attention to the facts(actions not words), establish timelines, and learn the players.. you can somewhat piece it all together with these articles.

Business Insider
Notes of interest: In April 2014, Biden's son Hunter joined the board of Burisma Holdings. Hunter served on the board until early 2019. At the time, a news release from the company said Hunter would be "in charge of the Holdings' legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations." Hunter told the New York Times that the news release was not accurate and he was never in charge of the company's legal affairs. After Shokin was appointed as Ukraine's prosecutor general in February 2015, he inherited the investigations into Zlochevsky, owner of Burisma. He also launched another probe into the profitable gas licenses that were awarded to Zlochevsky's companies as he served as a top minister in Yanukovych's government. But by March 2016, Shokin was ousted.
The New York Times
Notes of Interest: Hunter Biden and his American business partners were part of a broad effort by Burisma to bring in well-connected Democrats during a period when the company was facing investigations backed not just by domestic Ukrainian forces but by officials in the Obama administration. Hunter Biden’s work for Burisma prompted concerns among State Department officials at the time that the connection could complicate Vice President Biden’s diplomacy in Ukraine, former officials said. “I have had no role whatsoever in relation to any investigation of Burisma, or any of its officers,” Hunter Biden said. “I explicitly limited my role to focus on corporate governance best practices to facilitate Burisma’s desire to expand globally.” Mr. Biden and Mr. Archer pursued business with international entities that had a stake in American foreign policy decisions, sometimes in countries where connections implied political influence and protection. Among the Americans brought in by Hunter Biden’s American business partners to help fend off the investigations was Blue Star Strategies, a consulting firm run by Clinton administration veterans that had done substantial work in Ukraine. A team from Blue Star, and an American lawyer Blue Star hired, John D. Buretta, who had served as a senior official in the Obama Justice Department, held two previously unreported meetings in Kiev, Ukraine’s capital, with Mr. Lutsenko, who took office in May 2016 after Mr. Shokin’s dismissal, according to people with direct knowledge of the meetings. Mr. Lutsenko denied attending the meeting. Mr. Lutsenko initially took a hard line against Burisma. But within 10 months after he took office, Burisma announced that Mr. Lutsenko and the courts had “fully closed” all “legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations” against Mr. Zlochevsky and his companies, and that the oligarch had been removed by a Ukrainian court from “the wanted list.” Mr. Zlochevsky returned to the country.
The Washington Post
Notes of Interest: In an email interview with The Post, Shokin said he believes his ouster was because of his interest in the company. “Are you asking me about the motives of Joseph Biden?” Shokin wrote. “I will answer that the activities of Burisma, the involvement of his son, Hunter Biden, and the [prosecutor general’s office] investigators on his tail, are the only, I emphasize, the only motives for organizing my resignation.” Had he remained in his post, Shokin said, he would have questioned Hunter Biden. “All I can say is that the appointment of Hunter Biden as a member of the Board of Directors of the energy company is rather questionable from the point of view of effectiveness. After all, this person had no work experience either in Ukraine or in the energy sector,” he wrote.

Regardless of the picture the press tries to paint, the reality of the situation is that Biden pressured the ouster of the prosecutor(Shokin) that had multiple investigations of Burisma going on at the time, only for him to be replaced by a new prosecutor(Lutsenko) who ended ALL investigations of Burisma within 10 months.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 11:47 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79113 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:06 am to
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Damn. Zelensky can use the form of that suit to file a similar lawsuit against Trump.


lulz. Zelenky’s very own Interior Minister even loves MAGA. Good luck with that one baw.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 11:04 am to
I wonder how far this will go?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8647 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 11:08 am to
"Trump forced the U-Crane govt to file a lawsuit on Biden because he was afraid Joe would win"
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99005 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 11:09 am to
quote:

I wonder how far this will go?


Hopefully Biden is so bitter when he is taken down he exposes all of the other corruption in DC, on all sides.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146768 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 11:12 am to
CNN: Corrupt rogue nobody man brings Rudy talking points out; This was debunked.

MSNBC: Rudy met the man that brings charges against Joe Biden & Son; Debunked with Mr. Maddow at 9PM.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Damn. Zelensky can use the form of that suit to file a similar lawsuit against Trump


Now wait a min... per current outrage with the current president.. you are supposed to be furious at Biden due this revelation. This document alleges withholding of funds from Ukraine by Biden.

Where are the cries? Where are the screams? Where are the tantrums?

Are you now demanding Biden be removed from the ticket?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30012 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Hopefully Biden is so bitter when he is taken down he exposes all of the other corruption in DC, on all sides.


joe is a spineless weak little worm. he would sell his soul to save his arse from going to jail and he would most likely let his son and the rest of his criminal family rot in jail so he could be free

this is why if this becomes real, he will be suicided before he can start fingering others around him in high places
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:51 pm to
Exactly. A Senator should ask the House Managers if Biden should be taken off the ticket since it has been proven that he did the very thing they’re accusing Trump of doing? QPQ. The hypocrisy would resonate.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37636 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:54 pm to
Oh let this happen pleeeeeease. Let this be the proverbial one straw too many.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 1:00 pm to
How could they not? It’s obvious. Where’s the outrage about that?
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