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re: "An Inside Look at the Opioid Crisis that Destroyed a Town"

Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:04 am to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:04 am to
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You do realize that Drs created this mess for the most part right


This right here, the entire epidemic was created. It was totally avoidable and should never have happened.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16107 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:05 am to
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Well then I think the government response to it, making it more difficult to obtain the same prescription and scared some physicians away from prescribing altogether caused a bunch of people with addictions to resort to illicit opioids.


well yes exactly. Either need to go back to making it readily available from doctors or really crack down hard with the prison sentences.

The misery, emptiness, or whatever that many people feel from their lives isn't just going to go away, and unless another drug or way of making it bearable comes around, this isn't going to go away.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16107 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:06 am to
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Or you reach the point of getting tired of the addiction and withdrawal and quit, like many people have.


bingo
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62001 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:06 am to
The same people who don't believe in God or want his influence in their lives are the same ones that worry about things like this. Why?
Survival of the fittest right?
Let sin take its natural course and thin the herd.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 6:07 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 7:10 am to
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You do realize that Drs created this mess for the most part right?



::oprah meme::

You get some painkillers! Everyone gets some painkillers!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126598 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 7:42 am to
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A wall.....build it and they won't come in with the shite.


bro you do realize prescription pills is what started all this.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78057 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:50 am to
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The catalyst was docs, pharmacy and diagnostics wanting that sweet, plentiful government money.
Not really. The push for analgesia got underway during the 1990s when researchers began pushing the notion that pain was way undertreated and that doctors were doing a disservice to their patients. The alphabet organizations like CMMS(Medicare/Medicaid) began requiring clinicians inquire about pain. Docs were potentially penalized if they didn't. Mainstream media like Time magazine began running with the notion of pain undertreatment. The public also began asking, prodding, and manipulating for them. That has lead us to today.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10191 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 8:56 am to
I just think the government should stay out of regulating what doctors can and cannot prescribe.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:15 am to
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A wall.....build it and they won't come in with the shite.


Welp. That's interesting.
Posted by MississippiLSUfan
Brookhaven
Member since Oct 2005
12587 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:50 am to
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You do realize that Drs created this mess for the most part right?


They were forced. The government created this problem. Specifically, the Joint Commission (private contractors) hired by the government to assign accreditation to hospitals

Back in late ‘99 or early ‘00 pain was made the fifth vital sign. Pain questions were asked on every assessment performed on a patient, regardless of complaint. After treatment, these questions were required to be asked again. In order for a hospital to maintain accreditation, these assessments and treatment outcomes were only deemed successful if pain was either resolved or improved significantly. Every hospital was, and is, required to mail out a patient satisfaction survey to every patient treated. These surveys also include pain questions such as ‘was your pain treated and are you satisfied with the way that it was treated?’. May not be the exact wording but that’s the gist of it.

Here’s the meat of it and the catalyst for the tragedy that we are seeing unfold today. Hospitals are then graded on how well they performed in those satisfaction surveys and how compliant they have been on treating pain. Patient treatment charts are also reviewed as to pain treatment. The hospital’s compliance or noncompliance directly affects the proportion of Medicare and Medicaid funds that they are repaid for the services that they rendered.

Doctors that worked for hospitals were leaned on hard to make pain a priority by the hospitals. There was nothing subtle about it, either. I saw it personally on a small scale working in four ERs during that time. It was a huge change. Everyone that I worked with predicted the outcome that we see today. But everyone’s hands were tied. This problem was created and is maintained by our government.

They hit the hospitals right in the wallet with their good intentions and pharmaceutical companies exploded into the huge entities that we see today.

It’s hard to believe that this happened in less than two decades.


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78057 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 12:15 pm to
Exactly.
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