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re: Amy Coney Barrett = Trump’s biggest mistake

Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:22 pm to
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If you aren’t a fan of our Constitution and laws, no one is forcing you to stay. I guarantee none of us will miss you.


Nope. Not leaving my country. Someone has to save it from leftist dickbreaths like you.

Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:36 pm to
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Amy Coney Barrett = Trump’s biggest mistake


Bigger than this unnecessary war?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 2:35 am to
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Dodged again. I asked YOU the question, frito. Now answer it. BTW, judges are supposed to act in the best interest of the citizenry. In so doing, they invariably fashion the legal justification for their decision after they’ve decided. Surely your extensive legal experience has taught you this, frito.


Does anyone else find it richer than Elon, someone goes ham in a thread about the feels of ACB and makes a wholly emotional argument. I assume he has a Y chromosome but I assume he is fertilizing it because it's growing a 4th limb.

What you are asking for is for the court to legislate from the bench, is that really what you want?

The problem with Trump v Barbara is the right judicial decision is bad for the country. I suppose the court could fix it but it would require several of them to abandon their strict constructionist/textualist philosophy. Whether majority or minority I really want Thomas to write and opinion in Barbara because I really want to see how he philosophically handles it, it will be great insight for people that bring matters before the court. If I had to bet, I think it will be 7-2 and I really want to hear Thomas' curated thoughts.

Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 5:03 am to
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Does anyone else find it richer than Elon, someone goes ham in a thread about the feels of ACB and makes a wholly emotional argument.


Not wanting to see your country taken over by third world garbage is not an emotional argument. It’s common sense. Besides, it’s quite clear to normal Americans that the reconstruction amendments were not intended to benefit third world scoff laws and their spawn.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 5:15 am to
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What if this comes down 7-2 or worse?
First it was 9-0, or maybe 8-1. Now it's "what if this comes down 7-2."

... Do I hear a 6-3 in the offing?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:20 am to
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You do realize the Constitution can be amended?
You do realize shite-stupid SCOTUS rulings like Dred Scott, Plessy v. Ferguson, US v Ark, Korematsu v. US, Roe v Wade, TX v PA, etc. occur, and on occasion, are overturned by a future, more competent SCOTUS.

ITR, it is certainly worth noting that same Fuller SCOTUS, the producer of Plessy in 1896, was responsible for the subsequent Ark idiocy in 1898.

Had it not been for a later SCOTUS 9-0 obliteration of the Fuller Court's Plessy stupidity, I guess you'd be on this forum defending the Plessy segregation ruling as you are Ark, and saying "you do realize the Constitution can be amended?"
Posted by junkyarddawg3
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:29 am to
All is lost, then.

I might as well just give up on life.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:34 am to
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The fact that your brain will not accept the possibility that it's the correct decision is telling.

There's a chance this is 8-1 or 9-0
That is the measure of correctness? Really?
Some of the worst SCOTUS Rulings in history were near unanimous majorities

Dred Scott was 7-2
Plessy v Ferguson was 7-1
Roe v Wade (perhaps the worst Constitutional bastardization in US history) was 7-2

This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 7:11 am
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:36 am to
The birthright citizenship thing is a mess and should be fixed. But it's a constitutional issue and not something that can be fixed with an Executive Order. I am not even sure Congress could fix it. I think the Constitution has to be fixed and that's some heavy lifting. I don't think it is used as the 14th intended but there are lots of things that needed fixing that's why we have so many amendments. I don't see this coming down to an Amy Coney Barrett. The most conservative judges were asking questions that sounded as though they would go against the EO. Just my opinion who can look at something objectively and not through the lens of political slant. I wish it could be fixed but I think it has to go the amendment route. Not happening in my lifetime.
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:39 am to
Men in Black - How the Supreme Court is Destroying America by Mark R. Levin. Get it and read it.

The Democrats have figured out that if you control the Federal and SCOTUS Judges you can stop Donald Trump.

Chuck You Schumer even admitted that.

Trump 2026 - Fighting the Deep State and a Moral Relativist Justice System.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:43 am to
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Roe v Wade (perhaps the most Constitutional bastardization in US history) was 7-2

In its 50 year history could anyone ever find "right to privacy" in the constitution?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:55 am to
Women should not be in positions of authority
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:15 am to
lol don’t even know
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:30 am to
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The birth right citizenship is quite literally the decision of whether America is a country and Americans are a people.

This is just another example of MAGA becoming judicial activists just like the lefties. Birthright citizenship is an easily winnable issue for republicans. Campaign on it, win with it, and then change the constitution.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:33 am to
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This is just another example of MAGA becoming judicial activists just like the lefties.

Don't forget to include emotional
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:11 am to
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Birthright citizenship is an easily winnable issue for republicans.


There is absolutely NOTHING requiring a 2/3rds vote in the House and a 2/3rds vote in the Senate, followed by required approval by 3/4ths of the states that is an "easily winnable" issue in this environment for either side. What an unbelievable assertion.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:13 am to
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There is absolutely NOTHING requiring a 2/3rds vote in the House and a 2/3rds vote in the Senate, followed by required approval by 3/4ths of the states that is an "easily winnable" issue in this environment for either side. What an unbelievable assertion.

When I said it is easily winnable I did not mean the ultimate victory would be easy. I meant that this is an issue that will help us win elections. I should have been more clear.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:16 am to
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meant that this is an issue that will help us win elections.
This is an issue that will help us win elections... and lose the country.
Posted by SeafoodPlatter
Member since Jul 2012
851 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:29 am to
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There's a chance this is 8-1 or 9-0


No there isn’t you fricking hack. Stop pretending to be some constitutional scholar you fricking low rent divorce attorney.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:47 am to
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No there isn’t you fricking hack.

While you can't judge everything via oral arguments, Gorsuch and Kavabaw did not seem too particularly impressed with the government's argument.

Alito was more even-handed but he started it off with a Scalia quote that the government tried to dismiss. That's not a good thing.

I've said for a long while this will be an interesting test for Thomas and his legacy. He's been a huge proponent of textualism for his career, following in the steps of Scalia, and the textual argument for this case leans heavily against the government (Who has to rely primarily on select legislative intent, which Thomas has dismissed historically). However, he's moved into more of a partisan mindset the past few years. If it is 8 on one side, it would be pretty amazing to see Thomas go on his own and reject textualism. Multiple books will be written if that happens. It would be fascinating.
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