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re: American Health Care Act (Obamacare Replacement) introduced

Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:02 am to
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:02 am to
Except sorting out what is GOPcare's fault v. The continued intentional death spiral of Obamacare will be hard for your average low information voter.

Those prone to blaming Obama will continue to do so, those liking the bill already blamed Republicans anyway.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:03 am to
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in an existential struggle like WW2


Existential?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:06 am to
Getting ignorant people aboard doesn't make it true.
Posted by dafif5
Member since Nov 2012
629 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:06 am to
This is still better than universal healthcare so ZFG.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:08 am to
I'm not arguing it's true. I'm saying that this is designed in such a way that Republicans will still be able to use Obamacare as a talking point to their base.

Regardless of who actually causes what, this is a political move.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:08 am to
That is a stupid perspective.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157679 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:13 am to
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this is a political move.


With all due respect...Captain Obvious? These are lying hacks that do anything to gain and maintain power.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:16 am to
I'm not implying that is some huge revelation. I am just trying to cut through a lot of idealism and remind people this is done to extend Republican power.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:17 am to
I think it's going to back fire.

We asked for repeal and replace. We did not ask for Obamacare lite.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:20 am to
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Regardless of who actually causes what, this is a political move


I'm aware of that. It's only effective if we allow it to be effective.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:21 am to
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Except sorting out what is GOPcare's fault v. The continued intentional death spiral of Obamacare will be hard for your average low information voter.
Your average low information voter uses the "are you better off" test. It's not enough for the GOP or Trump to simply let the death spiral continue, they promised to fix it.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:24 am to
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frick these assholes.




quote:

Our wonderful new Healthcare Bill is now out for review and negotiation. @realDonaldTrump
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13493 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:28 am to
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It's not enough for the GOP or Trump to simply let the death spiral continue, they promised to fix it.
Yeah this was probably the biggest policy issue in this election, and probably the last several congressional election cycles. The GOP has made healthcare and the ACA a huge issue, and have been promising that only they can fix it for six years. I think voters will hold them accountable on this issue.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157679 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:31 am to
It's a tough spot to be in. Vote for Rs that are too weak to do what they were asked to do or vote for Ds that want to further expand gov more than the Rs.

To hell with all of them?
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:32 am to
Rand Paul and Mike Lee are having a presser later today to put this shite on blast
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74144 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:33 am to
nvm
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:37 am to
Wisconsin hasn't seen a choke job like this since the Big Ten championship
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10128 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:39 am to
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WH officials are saying trump is deeply unhappy with the bill because it doesn't help the poor enough



Oh frick all, that is what he is upset about with this bill???

No surprise considering in the campaign he advocated the government covering health insurance costs for the bottom 25% of the population (Medicaid currently only covers ~16%)
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:39 am to
Now that this has Trumps full support, would many of the folks bashing it yesterday be in full support today?
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:41 am to
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Now that this has Trumps full support, would many of the folks bashing it yesterday be in full support today?
"These cucks don't realize it's a starting point for negotiations. Art of the Deal! Phases 2 and 3 are gonna be yuge!"
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:47 am
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