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re: American farmer: Trump 'took away all of our markets'

Posted on 8/3/19 at 10:54 am to
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 10:54 am to
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destroying free markets

Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 10:57 am to
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Answer the question, asshat.

If this is as egregious as you say, why do even dem senators like Schumer support action against China?




Trump has this great idea to strangle his voter support in the Mid-West, and you're wondering why Schumer appears to have found a chair for him to stand on?


My poor boy......
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56554 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 10:59 am to
what is the deal with Montana? turned lib?

Liberal govenrment complaining last week about droughts...

and climate change BS

we've had rain all year in NC...just had a flash flood last night...2 years ago, droughts...this is what weather does, it changes...year to year

weather changes people, we're spinning and rotating around the sun at a nice clip, on a 22.4% degree angle

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134942 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:01 am to
Hear that, guys?

Trumps going to lose the corn belt and the mid south, and the Dakotas!
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49547 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:07 am to
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They are smart enough to understand that long term prosperity is worth some temporary pain. Nothing wrong with our country will be fixed without discomfort, which is why politicians have been too afraid to fix anything.


Exactly what I would expect from the farmer class - they are not stupid.

To keep kneeling down to China is like putting band-aids on a cancer eruption - just hides the growing danger until it kills you.

A remedial measure is going to cause some temporary pain - and providing funds to help mitigate that pain is about all you can ask - otherwise you are just on a downward spiral to eventual death.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:09 am to
If Trump doesn't blink and admit that his tariff strategy was impulsive and dumb, China is not going to back off. Unlike the Russians, Trump is not their boy. I don't think they really care if Trump gets reelected because he is a leader that can't be trusted and he's damaging their markets as well as ours.

China isn't going to let up, and Trump will only reverse course if he can do it in a way that doesn't look like he capitulated.

That spells more pain for farmers. Trump loses Iowa.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:11 am to
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We live in an area where we’re kind of in the middle of nowhere. It costs us a lot of money — over $1 a bushel to get our grain to markets


Maybe this is an issue?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:12 am to

You can't get better unbiased reporting than Yahoo.

Amirite?

Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:14 am to
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To keep kneeling down to China is like putting band-aids on a cancer eruption - just hides the growing danger until it kills you.

A remedial measure is going to cause some temporary pain - and providing funds to help mitigate that pain is about all you can ask - otherwise you are just on a downward spiral to eventual death.




What were the China tariffs on American soybeans, wheat, etc before Trump started meddling with them?


Whatever it was, it certainly wasn't enough to prevent American farmers from opening up that very important market and doing very well for themselves. Maybe there wasn't any Chinese tariff on those items?

Farmers were not affected by China trade policies...



that is until an imbecile got elected POTUS.

Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:14 am to
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Unlike the Russians, Trump is not their boy

You expect us to take you seriously, yet you post this nonsense?

Russia collusion has been fully debunked, even by your boy Mueller

Muh Putin agent
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:15 am to
It always strikes me how snarky the left gets about tax cuts, credits, and bailouts for industry while screaming for more welfare for the permanent dependency class.

We can't even pay trillions in entitlements without borrowing (from China, ironically), while agriculture employs over 20 million people. It seems like the snark is misguided.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46971 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:19 am to
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Yes, it will be temporary when we elect a POTUS that will get in there and reverse the damage that Trump has done to the markets.


So why the sky screaming if this’ll be fixed in a year?
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:22 am to
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Russia collusion has been fully debunked,


Seriously,

you really believe that?


It's been stated ad nauseum by Mueller in the hearings and anyone else you wish to pick from the thousands of patriots working in our intelligence services that Russia meddled with our election with the intent purpose of helping Trump win.

Russia wanted and helped Trump win the election. That is fact.

Mueller didn't think he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia in that effort, even though his report contains multiple instances where Trump campaign staff interacted with Russians (126 confirmed times)


Still doesn't change the fact that Russia interfered to help Trump win and Hillary lose.


Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6514 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:22 am to
Why is that “farmer/politician” complaining about not being able to sell something that he apparently can’t even grow? Are droughts racist now?

Oh, and we’ve sold frickin rice to fricken China for goodness sake! Explain that one!!!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:23 am to
Pygmalion is special. He believes the Mueller report, contrary to Robert Mueller himself, outlines over 100 instances of felony criminal conspiracy and treason. He also believes, again contrary to Muellers own words, that these crimes were ignored due to OLC guidance on indicting a POTUS.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89087 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:24 am to
A leftist coming to the defense of farmers.

I swear, Trump has turned you guys literally on your heads. You guys don’t know from one minute to the next whether to scratch your watches or wind your asses.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38734 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:24 am to
Crop prices have more to do with the commodity crash at the beginning of the decade and pink tide countries tying themselves to China during that time.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:29 am to
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election with the intent purpose of helping Trump win


By posting pro Hillary content on social media, attempting to hack the rnc, and giving anti Trump disinformation to the dnc? Wierd.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:31 am to
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farmer John Weinand surveys a wheat field near Beulah, N.D., that should be twice as tall as it is. Drought in western North Dakota this summer is laying waste to crops _ some of which won't even be worth harvesting.

So, Trump placing tariffs on China and compensating farmers with another 16 billion caused a drought.
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